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Israel Won
August 16 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 08/16/2006 1:53:05 PM PDT by jveritas

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To: Anti-Bubba182

Too bad the Hezzbollah claims are being parrotted by Rush, Sean, and assorted other knowitalls......who in reality are knownothings.


21 posted on 08/16/2006 2:11:41 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: elhombrelibre
General Aoun is a huge disappointment for me. He is proven to be a man who does not care about anything but his little dream of becoming President of Lebanon, even if this means he forges an alliance with a terrorist group like Hizballah. General Aoun is very well known to make the wrong political calculations and bring huge disappointment to his followers, this alliance with Hizballah is no different.

In regards to Lahood, the current "illegitimate President", he is a Syrian slave, and that is simply put.

22 posted on 08/16/2006 2:12:09 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
Lebanon lost 3 billions dollars in infrastructure, and another 7 billions dollars in economy, where the whole summer tourism season is gone.

True. Very well said.
23 posted on 08/16/2006 2:12:51 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." — Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: sinanju
a few months, they will be rearmed, replenished and rarin' to go.

Rearmed? They haven't been disarmed yet.

24 posted on 08/16/2006 2:12:58 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (A member of the Appalachian-American minority -- and proud of it!)
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To: HAL9000

I am amazed by that too, and very disappointed.


25 posted on 08/16/2006 2:15:23 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: sinanju

Don't count on that....


26 posted on 08/16/2006 2:17:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: jveritas

Great article...and you'd understand this more than others... Thanks ;o)


27 posted on 08/16/2006 2:18:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: OldFriend

A $ 10,000 restoration will barely build the basic structure for the house, for a complete house, they need much more than that.


28 posted on 08/16/2006 2:18:21 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
I've been saying the following, and I strongly believe it, but wanted your opinion.

Syria is the key; it's the conduit for the supplies; it's the safe haven for terrorists that kill Iraqis, Americans, and Israelis; it's an oppressor of its own people; it fights behind the scenes to keep Lebanon oppressed and under its yoke. When will we deal with Syria? We've allowed it to shelter Baathists, to funnel terrorists into Iraq, and to supply those who shoot missiles and rockets at Israeli civilians. The war on terror must be extended to Syria with the destruction of the Assad dictatorship. It is absolutely essential that we destroy Assad's military infrastructure and his ability to foment war through proxies. Why have we not done this?

Roads, radars, banks, planes, airports, bridges, ammunition storage areas, safe houses, training camps, fuel farms, motor pools, etc., etc., in effect all of his military infrastructure and all of his financial support for the war on civilization and democracy must be destroyed. Take Assad out. Fight terror supporting states not their goons and gunmen.

29 posted on 08/16/2006 2:18:42 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Civilization and democracy are under attack in Israel. Stand by her.)
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To: jveritas
It is an interesting perspective but I don't think it is correct. The Lebanese Army has no intention of confronting, much less disarming Hezbollah.

On the other hand, it is a victory for Israel in this sense. I think the Israelis learned a valuable lesson about the character of leaders Israel requires. I think Olmert will be replaced as a result of his failure. He should have been a long time ago. If Olmert had actually achieved any success, he would have used it to make even more concessions to Hamas. The fact that most everyone believes Olmert failed miserably will prevent Olmert from making more dangerous concessions.

Whether Israel has achieved victory will depend on what happens to Olmert and who replaces him.
30 posted on 08/16/2006 2:19:25 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: jveritas
Very interesting take, brother. I am sorry what has happened to your country and I, sadly, agree with your last paragraph.

I also want to thank you publicly for all you have done for America. Your reputation is stellar, and justly so.

I can't remember exactly where I read it, but someone I read made some interesting comparisons twixt the Weimar Republic being taken over by the Nazis and Lebanon being taken over by Hezbollah.

Have you read anything similar? Your thoughts even if you haven't.

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31 posted on 08/16/2006 2:19:47 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: jveritas

reading


32 posted on 08/16/2006 2:19:58 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: jveritas

Excellent piece jveritas, thank you for writing and posting it. I believe it is an extremely accurate assessment of what has taken place thus far.


33 posted on 08/16/2006 2:20:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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If Israel won...why will they need to re-fight this war in the near future....Hezzbola/France & Chirac/the MSM/democrats/anti-semitics all won and are claiming victory! People who cherish freedom and are against terror have lost....unfortuneatly that includes Israel/USA/Bush/republicans!!!!!


34 posted on 08/16/2006 2:21:36 PM PDT by hnj_00
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To: jveritas

They still lost the PR war.

The Hezbos are shooting fireworks and giving out candy.

They are giving REPLACEMENT FURNITURE! to the people who lost homes.

Seriously, this is a PR war not a gunpowder war.


35 posted on 08/16/2006 2:21:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

The PR wars are for the weak and defeated.


36 posted on 08/16/2006 2:25:06 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

I was interested in your take on the situation. Thanks for posting.

I think Israel will be back into Lebanon very soon, based on Hezbollah's statement that they will not disarm.


37 posted on 08/16/2006 2:26:13 PM PDT by pissant
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To: elhombrelibre
As long as there is the Baath terrorist regime in Syria, there will be terror in the world and woes to Lebanon. The Baath terrorist regime in Syria must go.
38 posted on 08/16/2006 2:26:24 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

With respect, JV, this war was much more political than military. As such, the propaganda result is much more important than the physical losses Hizbollah may have suffered.

If Israel had wanted to destroy Hezbollah, the way to have done it was by indirect means. They should have gone at Syria & cut the supply lines to Lebanon. Hizbollah would have lobbed some rockets, but they couldn't replace them. As things sit they will re-equip.

Instead the Israeli government chose to go right at Hezbollah. This tends to unite the Lebanese politically. If Hezbollah gains control of the Lebanese government, will this still be an Israeli victory?


39 posted on 08/16/2006 2:27:11 PM PDT by Tallguy (The problem with this war is the name... You don't wage war against a tactic.)
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To: OldFriend
I know! With a word like "victory" if enough people say so, it is true from a perception standpoint at least. Nevermind that Hezbollah lost more people, lost territory and so forth as they knew they would. If they still exist at all, they win.

What horse manure! I suppose I could get into the ring with Lennox Lewis and NOT GET KILLED and claim victory after I regained consciousness. This is the strategy of certain losers who wish appear like winners and their dupes and enablers go along with it. It is a BS hustle and truly outrageous.

40 posted on 08/16/2006 2:29:00 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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