Israel Won

August 16 2006 | jveritas

[jveritas]

It will take courage and real patriotic men and women to stand up to Hizballah. As I said before, Hizballah is now weaker than ever militarily, his infrastructure is badly destroyed, his leadership is hiding in bunkers proclaiming fake victories. The Lebanese government and the leaders of the other Lebanese factions who want a free and democratic Lebanon must take advantage of this and not fail under the false impression of a Hizballah fake victory and become afraid from doing anything regarding to this terrorist militia.

Of course the US must keep supporting the Lebanese government on this issue.

[SunkenCiv]

The next rocket attack from Lebanon should be responded to with a massive airstrike on Damascus' electrical power supply and airfields.

[AFreeBird]

From what I saw of a short FNC interview (interrupted by technical difficulties) with the Lebanese president by Shep Smith, He didn't seem to be too upset with Hezboallah. In fact he sounded like a fan. But, like I said I didn't see the whole thing, but Shep was pounding him pretty good about the fact that Hezboallah was even killing innocent Arab Israelis. The president looked like a deer in headlights; about that time was when the disruption occurred.

Sounds to me like Lebanon needs new leadership. When are the next elections, and do you think the Hezzies will steal them?

[El Gato]

You are confusing a classical war of armies with guerrilla warfare.

I don't think the recent 30 or so days of fighting was a guerrilla war either, except for the Hzb'allah hiding behind civilians. And not all guerrillas do that either. Although they do usually blend back into the population after their actions, which is not quite the same thing.

Hzb'allah was organized and fought like an army. It was asymmetrical warfare, but not classic guerrilla warfare. The VC practiced guerrilla warfare, at least much of the time. But during Tet' 68 they came out of their guerrilla mold and into something else, and got their butts kicked.

Hzb'allah tried to hold territory, guerrillas don't do that. Their use of shoot and scoot missile launching was sort of guerilla like, but conventional forces do that to these days, because counter-battery fire is now fast and accurate.

[TomasUSMC]

How would have Israel won according to you?

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Well there are lots of ways to skin a cat, this would be mine.... By Ultimatum.

After attacking Hezzbolah and receiving all that rocket fire, the decision would have been made

-to make Syria and Iran pay a price that they would find so unacceptable that they would have ordered and/or forced Hezzbolah to ceasefire and release the prisoners ... or face the destruction of their regimes.

After mobilizing the entire country of Israel (and giving a heads up to our allies), the message would have gone out to Syria and Iran to EACH evacuate their 3 largest cities.

Then the PM of Israel would have spoken to the world and explained
- that there was no time left for his little nation of 6 million Jews.
- That its enemies had publicly announced that they wished to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and were presently developing nuclear weapons.
- That Israel was to small to wait and absorb a nuclear strike first and that the hundreds of rockets hitting Israel daily today might be guided, more advanced and nuclear THE VERY NEXT YEAR
- That the U.N. had failed to safeguard Israel for the last time.
- That Israel had been attacked not once but twice, from the North and the South, even though Israel had withdrawn totally from Gaza.
- And that on this PM's Watch, Jews would never again stand by and be destroyed.
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FOR THAT REASON the cities of DAMASCUS and TEHRAN would be destroyed in 48 hours. If the enemies of Israel afterwords did not meet the demands of Israel, concerning the security of Israel, the return of POWs, and its right to exist ... more cities would be destroyed - until Israel's conditions were met.

[Publius6961]

What's up with the numerous spelling, grammatical and syntactic errors?
I was under the impression that JV was a native American. If I was wrong, my apologies...
It's a shame. This is an excellent and thorough article/report/opinion piece.

[jveritas]

JV is not a native American :) I am originally from Lebanon.

[Publius6961]

I doubt very much that Hizballah will be able to re-build his military infrastructure in the South in the presence of these 30000 Lebanese and International troops no matter how many people want to discount these troops as "incompetent", they are not as bad as they portray them to be.

They don't have to be incompetent, just more sympathetic to the terrorist side for whatever reason.
The Israeli military may be good, but it really can't hope to cope with Hezbollah, the undeclared support of the Lebanese army and UN troops acting, in reality if not in theory, as obstructive human shields.

[freedomson]

I pray you're correct, cousin. Well done.

[Publius6961]

What about the Israeli soldiers taken prisoner? Nothing Nada. Sorry that means Israel lost.

This is as far as I read, because if the rest is equally as "incisive", I would be wasting my time...

[Publius6961]

JV is not a native American :) I am originally from Lebanon.

You had me fooled for years!
Congratulations.
Are you now or ever been a resident of the U.S.?

[jveritas]

I have been living in the US for over 12 years and next year I will apply for my citizenship, finally :)

[Publius6961]

I have been living in the US for over 12 years and next year I will apply for my citizenship, finally :)

And a warm welcome to you!

As an immigrant myself, I can imagine the value you give to true citizenship. Why do I suspect that you'd rather not be known as a hyphenated-American?

[jveritas]

Yep, I do not like to use the "Hyphenated-American" thing. We are just "Americans".

[Former Proud Canadian]

bump

[Candor7]

Patton was addressing the defnition of Victory in all wars. Read the cited link, his writing is quite interesting.

[Dave Elias]

"Israel destroyed 25% of Hezbollah's militia and 80% of their long-range missile capabilities."

Figures pulled straight out of the IDF's ass...

[Dave Elias]

So in your scenario why would we favor Israel over say Syria? What do you think would be the consequence to Irael of such a first strike?