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Islamic terrorism linked to Nazi fascists
Spero News ^ | Aug 14, 2006 | Robert Duncan

Posted on 08/16/2006 11:23:16 AM PDT by Bokababe

Folks seem to be in a quandary: Should US president George W. Bush have used the terms “Islam” and “Fascists” in the same sentence. The majority of the negative comments have been directed toward the president’s lack of sensitivity toward the vast majority of followers of Islam.

But despite some weak politically correct attempts, the fact is that the press for the most part is guilty of whitewashing one simple fact: There is a radical, heretical brand of Islam fostering terrorism that is indeed a by-product of Fascism and a hatred of Jews.

Shahid Nickels, a member between 1998 and 2000 of the group headed by Mohammed Atta who led the 9-11 attacks, said that "Atta's weltanschauung was based on a National Socialist way of thinking. He was convinced that 'the Jews' are determined to achieve world domination. He considered New York City to be the center of world Jewry which was, in his opinion, Enemy Number One," according to an article written by Dr. Matthias Küntzel. (1)

Atta’s peculiar “Nationalist Socialist way of thinking,” however, was far from unique. In fact, it was a seed germinating for 80 years among radical Islamists that can be traced to Hassan al-Banna, a 22-year-old school teacher who gathered discontent Muslims to found the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928/1929. ......

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arab; crushislam; islam; islamicfascists; islamicnazis; islamisadeathcult; islamisevil; islamofascism; israel; muslim; muslims; nazi; trop; wot; wwii
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To: sheik yerbouty
You have to remember that the Arabs have a parallel history with the Hebrews, right down to 12 tribes, 12 cities, and a holy mountain or two.

That's one of the reasons analysts have put forward the idea that the Hebrew Biblical history is allegorical ~ that it has close parallels.

Even the Greeks had 12 tribes, as did the Welsh as they struggled with Dark Ages total militarization and survival. I believe Vietnamese nobles are also members of one or the other of 12 tribes ~ but that was a totally militarized society for many centuries as well. Koreans share a similar structure.

61 posted on 08/16/2006 5:56:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bokababe
However, that is not to suggest that Croatian Nazis under Ante Pavelic had nothing to do with Hitler and his ilk. Feel free to look up Ante Pavelic as well.

So, you folks know who is who in history.
62 posted on 08/16/2006 5:56:55 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Bokababe

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HIMMLER WAS THEIR DEFENDER

 

The above headline appeared in Sarajevo Muslim's weekly magazine, "Svijet". The original, "Bosnian" language headline was "Himmler ih je stitio."

The series of articles about this dark period of Bosnian Muslim's WWII history was printed on: Oct. 26, Nov. 2, Nov. 9, Nov. 16 and Nov. 23. of 1997. I got my hands on Nov 2, Nov. 16 and Nov. 23 issues. The articles will eventually be scanned, translated into English and posted to this site. For now, I'll just present you with the photos printed in the three issues above. 

Above left: 
Fez which was a part of "Handzar" division's uniform is completely same as the one Bosnian soldiers wore in Austro-Hungarian military. Only the amblems were changed. The photo shows the "Feldgaru" jacket with amblems on the collar, and camouflage uniform "Tarnhemd"

Commander of the "Handzar" division. SS-brigadier general Karl-Gustav Sauberzweig also was required to wear the same fez.

Defile of "Handzar" division

Officers of the division introduce themselves to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem

 

On 10th of February of 1943 Hitler gave a "green light" for creation of the division made up of Bosnian Muslims, whose main purpose would be fighting Tito's partisans in Bosnia. On 13th of Feb. Himmler gave an order to SS Gruppenfuhrer (division-level general) Arthur Phelps, commanding officer of the "Prinz Eugen" SS division, which consisted of Yugoslavian folksdojcers, to immediately start recruiting. 

 

SS Divisions:

SS-Panzer division "Viking"
Made up of Germans and Nordic volunteers
Logo: Sun in an image of swastika.

SS-Volunteer mountain division "Prinz Eugen". Made up of folksdojcers from Serbia and Croatia.

SS-volunteer panzer division "Nordland", formed out of remainder of Danish, Norwegian and Holland legions. Logo: Swastika in a circle.

SS-mountain division "Handschar", consisted of Balkan folksdojcers and Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Logo: "handzar" (sword).

SS Infantry division "Galicia". Formed in 1943 from Ukranians from Galicia and Rutenia (under-karpatian Ukraine) and "Reich"-Germans.

SS Infantry division "Letland". Formed in the beginning of 1944. Consisted of Letonians and Baltic Germans.

SS Infantry diviosion "Latvia". Formed in 1944. Made up of Letonian and folksdojcers.

SS Infantry division "Estland". Formed in 1944. Made up of Estonians and folksdojcers. Logo" Letter "E" and a sword.

SS Mountain division "Skenderbeg". Formed in 1944. Made up of Albanians. Logo: two-headed Albanian eagle.

Branko Slavini (in uniform) and Kasim Silajdzic, two Bosnian soldier who deserted 16th September. Before them, Kazimir Silajatovic also deserted.

High-school grounds, a home of 240 Bosnian soldiers of 13. SS engineering batallion 14. August 1943 

Bosnian volunteer hanging a picture of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
A group of Muslim volunteers of "Handzar" division. All wear fez caps. Logos are skull with crossed bones and SS eagle. Fez was worn by the Muslim soldiers and their German officers alike. There were different models of fez in different colors (green, red, with or without the tail). The uniform collars had a curved sword and swastika engraved on them.
Foreigners in Waffen SS (Balkan and Centr. Europe)

Slovenians 6,000
Albanians 4,000
Serbs 4,000
Bosnians 20,000
Greeks 1,000
Czech 5,000
Hungarians 40,000
Bulgarians 3,000
Rumanians 5,000

Special armed formations of fascist Germany (Waffen-SS) until the end of war created all together 38 divisions, 18 of which were staffed by pure German and 20 by foreigners. Among them was a "Handzar" division staffed by Bosnians, claims the French magazine "Istoria" (Number 32, year 1973.). 

[Note by the Srpska Mreza webmaster: The Serbs in the table above were not the Serbs at all, it was the Germans living in Serbia's province of Vojvodina, which used to belong the pre-WWI Austro-Hungary.]

In Bosnian mountains. The "Handzar" division was trained and armed as a mountain formation.

Himmler: "Muslims responded to the call of Muslim heads and joined our side because of their hatred of our joint Jewish-English-Bolshevik enemies, and because of their belief and respect for the one we place above all -- towards Fuhrer."



SS Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler and SS Brigadefuhrer Karl G. Sauberzweig examining "Handzar" division.

On the fez, on the left side, mountaineer division wore a flower.


GETTING READY TO FIGHT THE PARTISANS:
Soldiers of the "Handzar" division
IN BOSNIAN MOUNTAINS: 
During the 1944 fight.

 

 

Last updated: 02/05/2004
 

63 posted on 08/16/2006 5:59:07 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: muawiyah

My wife has a different theory. She thinks it was a form of identity theft..


64 posted on 08/16/2006 6:05:26 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
The story of the Arabs and their parallel history is in the Jewish Bible.

Who stole what?

65 posted on 08/16/2006 6:11:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bokababe
The connection between the Islamic Brotherhood and the Nazis is well-known, but I am somewhat troubled by the article's apparent absolution of the Left from Arab/moslem terrorism. We are told that the British planned to use a Nazi army to destroy Israel and that the CIA dusted off all the Arab Nazis to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, but there was as much Leftism as fascism in Banna's ideology, and the Soviet bloc, despite its initial support of the creation of Israel, in the Fifties had already thrown its support to the Arabs (and they had already long been sponsoring Communist Arab/moslem "youth" groups). The "Nazi" Nasser became the Moscow-line Communist dictator of Egypt and Arafat was always the darling of the entire Communist world. And we should not forget the Communist support of Khomeini, who repaid them by making May Day a national holiday. In fact, there are those who theorize that "islamic fundamentalism" is merely the islamic world's version of "liberation theology."

It is customary to here anti-Communism blamed for the fortunes of old Nazis in Europe, but the implication that Communist Arabs (unlike Nazi ones) are pure as the driven snow is truly bizarre.

Then there's that whole association of Judaism with modernity, enlightenment, and democracy thing, but that dead horse done been beat already.

66 posted on 08/16/2006 6:41:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Re'eh, 'Anokhi noten lifneykhem hayom berakhah uqelalah.)
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To: muawiyah

Parallel history? The Quran is to the Old and New Testaments, what Bizarro was to Superman. The Arabs claim Ishmael as their ancestor but as pagans at the time, they contrived this later.


67 posted on 08/16/2006 8:41:14 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

I'm talking about the parallel history that's in the Bible itself. Genesis 17:20 begins that story. Genesis 25:16 gives it some detail. Recent archaeology has found evidence for the existence of these people.


68 posted on 08/17/2006 6:11:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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69 posted on 08/17/2006 7:31:20 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

"It is customary to here anti-Communism blamed for the fortunes of old Nazis in Europe, but the implication that Communist Arabs (unlike Nazi ones) are pure as the driven snow is truly bizarre."

Agreed. Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. It is irrelevant whether it is coming from the the far Left or the the far Right. Communists are at least as guilty as the old Nazis, event though their choice of victims was often a little different.

Any time I see some historical piece seemingly sympathetic to communism, I make a private bet that the author is English -- and 9/10 times I am right!


70 posted on 08/17/2006 9:31:27 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: muawiyah
Ok, so please explain your take on the roots of Islamic terrorism.
71 posted on 08/17/2006 10:02:45 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython; muawiyah; Bokababe; eleni121
"Ok, so please explain your take on the roots of Islamic terrorism."

Add, please explain the difference between a baby
boomer and baby bomber, especially the parental
mentality of the latter?


A Palestinian baby dressed up as a genocide bomber

 

72 posted on 08/17/2006 10:53:03 AM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Bokababe
As one who used to listen to short wave radio back in the old Cold War days (and was thus familiar with the position of Communist nations on the Middle East conflict), I am absolutely amazed at the bizarre phenomenon of so many American ideologues (on both the Right and Left) who want to pretend that the situation is exactly the reverse. No matter that Fidel Castro hosted "palestinian" terrorists in 1966, there always were (and still are) those who want to see all anti-Israel Arabs as anti-Communist and Communists as somehow in league with Israel. The World Anti-Communist League was at one time dominated by these old Nazi types, even while the entire Communist world was cursing and defaming "the Zionist regime."

It is especially rankling to constantly read or hear about how all the Nazi war criminals went to work after WWII for the West (when some of them went to work for the Communist bloc as well), but when it comes to the Middle East since the Fifties it is simply ludicrous to ignore the solid Communist support for the most violent, terroristic, and radical Arab/moslems and the universal use of Israel as a punching bag by international revolutionaries. Have these people forgotten that the PLO supported every Communist regime in the world (the same regimes which anti-Semitic "anti-Communists" so claimed to oppose)? What about the PLO being among the very first foreign visitors to Sandinista Nicaragua?

I've always thought people who ignore Communist anti-Zionism to concentrate only on Nazis have some sort of ideological ax to grind. To adopt this attitude when it comes to the Arab world is practically to advertise it to the world.

73 posted on 08/17/2006 2:45:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Re'eh, 'Anokhi noten lifneykhem hayom berakhah uqelalah.)
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To: Bokababe
Source

Hitler's New Youth
By Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 26, 2006


The Hamas newspaper this week chronicled with pride the ways in which different foreign leaders singled out the Palestinians as examples of ideal revolutionaries. The first leader cited by the Hamas weekly, Al-Rissala, for praising the Palestinians was Adolf Hitler:
"Adolf Hitler, while exciting the Germans of the Sudetenland - the Sudetenland is a German province that the Allies had annexed to Czechoslovakia after the First World War - told them in his broadcasts: Look at what the Palestinian revolutionaries are doing to Great Britain!!"
[Al-Rissala (Hamas Weekly), May 18, 2006]

Overview: Admiration of Hitler in the Palestinian Authority:

It may be surprising to Western observers to see Palestinians taking pride in having been praised by Hitler. But it is important to understand that the utter revulsion of Hitler expected in the West is not true in Palestinian society. Palestinians can be found who are named "Hitler" as a first name: Hitler Salah [Al Hayat Al Jadida, Sept. 28, 2005], Hitler Abu-Alrab [Al Hayat Al Jadida, Jan. 27, 2005], Hitler Mahmud Abu-Libda [Al Hayat Al Jadida, Dec.18, 2000].

This phenomenon of Palestinians being named after Hitler was explained in an article in the official PA daily praising the rewriting of history and the doing of "justice" to Hitler:

"Even Adolf Hitler, who after the fall of Nazi Germany turned into a political horror for most of the writers and artists, during the last decades has started to return himself to his part of the picture. There are some in Britain who defended Hitler and tried to do justice for him. There are elderly people, among them Arabs, who still carry the name Hitler since their fathers, who were charmed by him, linked them [their children] with his name."
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 13, 2000]

One article explained the phenomenon of naming Palestinians after admired foreign leaders - such as Napoleon and the Nazi General Rommel:

"Sometimes parents name their children with foreign names, due to the father's admiration to a foreign personality. This is the source of the names: Rommel [famous Nazi General] and Napoleon."
[Al-Ayyam, November 15, 2001 "Woman's Voice" supplement].

The admiration for Hitler is consistent with the status of Mein Kampf, which a PA daily cited as a book on the best sellers' list.
[Al Hayat Al Jadida, Sept. 2, 1999].

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[Hitler with Husseini]                  [Husseini inspects Nazi troops]

A contributing factor to this admiration may be the history of the Hitler - Arab alliance during World War 2. The Arab leader in British Palestine, the Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, was actively allied with Hitler. The numerous meetings between the Mufti and Hitler are well documented.

Finally, the PA daily published an interview with an elderly Lebanese which described the man's professed friendship with Hitler, as well as his pride in fighting for Hitler: And whereas this is a personal account whose historical accuracy is not important, what is significant is the positive, even proud attitude about his friendship with Hitler, that is being expressed so routinely.

Interview with Sheikh Ali Hussain Abu-Ibrahim, a Palestinian resident of Lebanon who claims he is 116 years old:

"Question: What are the important events in your life that left the biggest impression?
Answer: The first was the Hitler event. I met him in Jerusalem in one of the Turkish Army camps, and the friendship between us was very tight. At the time I was a sergeant while Hitler was a simple private. The relationship between us tightened even more once Turkey entered the war together with Germany. The second event was when I participated [with the Nazi army] in entering France and conquering it. I was in charge of the cannon that shelled Paris, which had an active influence on the fall of the French capital and its conquest without any notable resistance. Hitler congratulated me on this shelling and its consequences… As an artillery officer I took part in many operations against the English and France, until the end of the Second World-War …"
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, May 12, 2003]

Clearly, the name Hitler does not have the stigma in PA society that it has in the West. Indeed, not only the Hamas daily, but the Fatah controlled PA dailies as well, have written in favorable tones about Hitler. Clearly, to some Palestinians the man and his name are sources of admiration.

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74 posted on 08/17/2006 3:18:55 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I think that most non-Jews are completely unaware of the Nazi connection to ME Islamists. Perhaps it is well-known among Jews, but it is not known among non-Jews. And that is the simplest part of the equation to communicate.

As I said before, totalitarianm is totalitarianism. Whether it has a communist or fascist flavor, they are still much the same.

During WWII in the Balkans, most of the British proclaimed Communist Comrade Tito to be this great "freedom-fighter" who fought the Nazis at every clip and turn. But in fact, Tito's righthand man Milovan Djilas who later turned dissident said, "This absolutely untrue. Our lines with Nazi Germany were open until the final days of the war. We were most worried about a British landing and were preparing ourselves to destroy them if they tried it."

But the West (Britain & the US) simply refused to believe that communists and fascists were more alike than different. So in fact we did protect and save some of these Nazis from prosecution, because we thought that they might be useful in the defeat of communism. Bad assessment. Left with blowback.


75 posted on 08/17/2006 4:01:48 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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