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To: Quix
Most of the people who use the word "average" in the mathematical or statistical context, have no grasp whatsoever of the concept.

A really really really really simple example for the dogmatic and reason-challenged out there:

If you take five individuals, and four of them live to be 60, and the fourth dies at childbirth, the "average" longevity of the group is 48 years. A 20% reduction in the lifespan of all the survivors. Statistically useful but not particularly informative.

We won't even get into why or how, of the ducumented 10 people who lived to over 105, 9 of them smoked until age 95.
There must be other factors involved. YA THINK?

150 posted on 08/16/2006 10:28:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

The reality that you have thrown out is that any study that would use an age average would automatically toss out and explain any age that would seem to fall out of the group norm, or in fact the study would not even use that data and would create a seperate study to determine why there was this anomaly in the study. Using an EXTREME example of a non realistic average is not scientific at all.


167 posted on 08/16/2006 10:53:13 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Publius6961

Probably not. The anthropologists theorize the age by going by found skeletons and their average age. I doubt any of those "smokin" cavemen lived beyond their thirties... partly due to their smokin' caves!


181 posted on 08/16/2006 12:28:14 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Publius6961
Most of the people who use the word "average" in the mathematical or statistical context, have no grasp whatsoever of the concept.

Given all the givens, evidently the scientific study backing up this "Most" will be posted shortly on this thread.

A really really really really simple example for the dogmatic and reason-challenged out there:

If you take five individuals, and four of them live to be 60, and the fourth dies at childbirth, the "average" longevity of the group is 48 years. A 20% reduction in the lifespan of all the survivors. Statistically useful but not particularly informative.

We won't even get into why or how, of the ducumented 10 people who lived to over 105, 9 of them smoked until age 95.

I am beginning to think that smokers are as addicted to non-secuiters as much as they are to cigarettes!

Amazing.

215 posted on 08/16/2006 2:52:37 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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