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Lawyer: Egyptian Student Made An Innocent Mistake
wcco-tv - Bloomington, MN ^ | Aug 15, 2006 10:35 pm US/Central | Lisa Kiava

Posted on 08/16/2006 1:12:51 AM PDT by Rte66

(WCCO) Bloomington, Minn. For the first time today, we heard from the Egyptian foreign exchange student arrested in Minneapolis.

Eslam El-Dessouki is one of eleven young men authorities picked up after entering the country on student visas, but never showing up at school.

In a Bloomington, Minn. immigration courtroom, a judge asked the student some very tough questions.

Several times, the Egyptian student was asked, "Why didn't you go to Montana State as required by your student visa?"

El-Dessouki said, "It was the first time out of my country, I just think to visit my uncle... I didn't know if I didn't attend school it would be a crime."

(Excerpt) Read more at wcco.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Minnesota; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: aliens; egyptian; egyptians; egyptianstudents; jihadinamerica; minnesota; missingstudents; montana; students
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To: Jezebelle

And don't forget this little tidbit:

" ... applied for an official Minnesota state identification card. ..."


21 posted on 08/16/2006 2:04:20 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: nopardons

So, you're saying they came here to fan out, get lost in the chaos, and get jobs illegally like Mexicans and SAs do (only better jobs, of course)? In other words, illegally immigrate for employment? No doubt those jobs would be in Arab-owned or influenced companies. But I don't think so. I think it was to probe our security, as another poster suggested. Who knows if they really flunked out of college in Egypt or not? Maybe they did, and the only honorable recourse for them was to go to America, connect with a terror cell and become suicide bombers? The money to get them in could easily have come from Al-Qeada.


22 posted on 08/16/2006 2:05:57 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: nopardons

If it would not pay back the investment, you're full of it


23 posted on 08/16/2006 2:06:32 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Jezebelle

Why would Egyptians need to play hooky to "probe" US nonsecurity. All they need to do is watch the southern what-passes-for-a-border.


24 posted on 08/16/2006 2:08:11 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: The Red Zone

Because they can't crawl across a border from a country that is difficult to get into (Mexico) so they have to come into the US on a visa. The probe is to check how well they are tracked after they arrive and what holes exist.


25 posted on 08/16/2006 2:12:08 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

It will be interesting to see in the next few days, as the other 10 make their court appearances, whether it comes out that any of them were in touch with any of the others, or if they "knew" where the others went.


26 posted on 08/16/2006 2:12:50 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Jezebelle

They haven't been expelled from Mansoura University yet - that is supposed to happen when they get home to Egypt.

So "they* say.


27 posted on 08/16/2006 2:15:07 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

I agree, just send them all back to Egypt. Amen.


28 posted on 08/16/2006 2:15:33 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: nopardons
Nopardons, this sounds like a real racket. It begs the question: Just how many of these "students" are here that their irresponsible, "supposed", universities have not reported?
29 posted on 08/16/2006 2:54:12 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Dallas59
Apply Sharia Law, forty lashes with the cat, salt rubbed into wounds , and deported forthwith, no hearings, no appeals, and thus no MSM news articles proclaiming cruel treatment.( Its deterrant punishment...duh?)

Mother: My Eslam, he's a good boy, he brings me pastries and tea when he is in Cairo, and has a new job in America at......Radio Shack! His friends work at the fertilizer plant and now he is using our family business to start his own fertilizer plant in America, such a good boy!

When will this country wake up? It is NOT business as usual!!!

Profiling must begin, and we need to start closing the doors.

30 posted on 08/16/2006 3:06:18 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Rte66; nopardons
Yes, that scared the pee out of me!! I just want to know where ALL the rest of the "Visa offenders" are. Lord knows, they must be everywhere! Can you imagine UCLA turning in people that don't show up for class? We're lucky it was Montana.

I, too, found it odd they would single out these Egyptians. It's certainly possible the government had a heads up---particularly with the Brit hijacking thing on the horizon.

Nopardons, did your source explain about their expulsion from their schools in Egypt? Did they give reasons? Was this prior to their coming to the U.S., or was it related to their coming here?
31 posted on 08/16/2006 3:06:20 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: The Red Zone

Working off the books can be profitable, even if the pay is lower than the norm for that kind of job. They can probably land such a job and a place to stay with some relative in the states, of which they have many. The reason is that while doing work off the books, they can also get fake IDs and start cashing in on charitable organizations' goodwill, both the typical charity oranizations we all know, and the Muslim ones we don't. They can add on a selection of welfare programs as well. They can also get free health care. And they can spend their time looking for some American citizen to marry.


32 posted on 08/16/2006 3:19:48 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Rte66
"My first time out of my country" ... but I hopped a Greyhound from New York City to Minneapolis.
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Maybe they have buses in Egypt, so the concept isn't too hard to grasp.
33 posted on 08/16/2006 3:34:41 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

This whole thing stinks.


34 posted on 08/16/2006 3:35:57 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Rte66

May it be the last time in this country.


35 posted on 08/16/2006 3:37:59 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Candor7

"When will this country wake up?"


I find myself thinking this all the time anymore.


36 posted on 08/16/2006 3:41:19 AM PDT by good old days
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To: Rte66

Revoke "student" visas from terrorist countries.
When will this country finally wake up?
PC is going to kill more people!


37 posted on 08/16/2006 3:51:33 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (American Left, Islamic Fascism, Mainstream Media = ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

You know how they don't put up a stop light,widen a road or any other needed road project until someone dies? Same thing is stewing here. Even though we had 911 its going to take 10 times more than that for Americans to demand the complete removal of all nationalities that may pose a threat.


38 posted on 08/16/2006 4:04:09 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: singfreedom
"...sounds like a real racket. It begs the question: Just how many of these "students" are here that their irresponsible, "supposed", universities have not reported?",

The racket of which you speak certainly did exist, and millions of "students" from all over the world came to this country on student visas & just disappeared & started new lives as Americans. For decades, it was one of the prime avenues for illegal immigration from overseas, and easy-money for universities since they were taking in million$ in tuition from folks they didn't have to expend any resources to actually teach.

After 9/11, the feds required universities to report its no-shows, which is why MSU contacted the authorities when these men never made it to Bozeman. So, a system that was terribly broken for decades actually worked here through post-9/11 reforms.The new policy has essentially shut down the racket & now only the occassional strays make the news, whereas before millions disappearing into the woodwork annually went completely unreported.

One would think that freepers would take some heart out of this, but it seems sometimes even good news is bad news here.Some people here seem to think that the success had by the US in tracking down the Bozeman 11 is evidence that Homeland Security is bungling it or hiding something or worse. I'm not quite sure why.

39 posted on 08/16/2006 4:15:01 AM PDT by leilani
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To: leilani
Some people here seem to think that the success had by the US in tracking down the Bozeman 11 is evidence that Homeland Security is bungling it or hiding something or worse. I'm not quite sure why.

If we didn't let 'em in, we wouldn't have to track 'em down.
40 posted on 08/16/2006 4:20:21 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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