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Muslim and police groups reject profiling plans
Financial Times ^ | August 15 2006 | Christopher Adams and Bob Sherwood in London and Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington

Posted on 08/15/2006 4:55:38 PM PDT by mdittmar

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I've read the article, it reads like our old media biased crap,lots of "being played down by UK government insiders","and police groups have refused to back the idea.","the government is wary of introducing security screening with an ethnic component"; etc.

I am not familiar EU politics,but if there is a grain of truth in this,what will it take for us on both sides of the pond to wake up and quit this p.c. crap??

This is the quote that scares me,

“We consider that assuming the threat of terrorism to come from a particular ethnicity, faith, gender or age range would create a gap in our policing response that could be exploited by terrorists. Therefore, we brief staff carefully around these issues to ensure that stereotyping does not happen.”

1 posted on 08/15/2006 4:55:40 PM PDT by mdittmar
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Who cares what the Arabs and Muslems think? They are completely incapable and unwilling to police themselves. They are not being sensitive to the rest of the world in my opinion. Run every single of them through the ringer. The wierd thing about this liquid ban is that they can easily hide the liquid in plastic vials in their pants or underwear, without a full search.


2 posted on 08/15/2006 5:09:00 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior (Where does free speech end, and sedition begin?)
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I think they are trying to emphasize, the blond and blue will be sent in if they start relying too much on Mid East stereotypes.


3 posted on 08/15/2006 5:09:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Phony Religion of Peace "Civil Rights" leaders have been against almost every anti-terror measure in Western countries.


4 posted on 08/15/2006 5:10:52 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: ritewingwarrior

remember this from 2002?


Jihadists change terror stereotype; Iran and al-Qaeda have been recruiting and training brigades of blond, blue-eyed jihadists with Bosnian military experience to wage war against the West - World: war on terror
Insight on the News, Dec 10, 2002 by Scott L. Wheeler

On Oct. 24, police arrested two men they believe to be the Beltway snipers of Washington. At least one of them, John Allen Muhammad, is a Muslim. For now, authorities are not commenting on published reports that Muhammad and his juvenile accomplice, John Lee Malvo, were connected to jihadist terrorist organizations. But before anything was known about Muhammad and Malvo, federal investigators had been on the alert for another potential suspect--a Bosnian deserter from the French military. During the Beltway-sniper investigation, terrorism experts told INSIGHT about the missing soldier and his potential expertise as an assassin. For police investigators desperate for clues that might lead to the perpetrators, it may have seemed like a long shot. But to counterterrorism experts concerned about homeland defense, it was part of an expected new face of terrorism.

To most Americans these days the label "terrorist" conjures up images of swarthy men of Middle Eastern descent. But experts tell INSIGHT that, with help from Iran, their enablers Osama bin Laden and his top deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri have recruited and trained brigades of blond, blue-eyed Bosnians and indoctrinated them for martyrdom. Both bin Laden and al-Zawahiri have in recent days been heard on tape recordings threatening more terrorist attacks against the United States.


5 posted on 08/15/2006 5:11:33 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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6 posted on 08/15/2006 5:12:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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“We consider that assuming the threat of terrorism to come from a particular ethnicity, faith, gender or age range would create a gap in our policing response that could be exploited by terrorists. Therefore, we brief staff carefully around these issues to ensure that stereotyping does not happen.”

How did this moron get into a position of authority???

A large number of the terrorists came from the same mosque...But that's not a factor here...

There are two groups to fear...The mudlims and the gov't...

7 posted on 08/15/2006 5:15:58 PM PDT by Iscool
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"The sort of people involved in terrorist activities don’t tend to fit a certain pattern and include people of all races and potentially different ages."

Yeah, so keep looking out for those Black Amish Grandmas.

8 posted on 08/15/2006 5:25:53 PM PDT by Argus
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If I was muslim, and I was not a terrorist I would be happy to undergo an inconvenience to persecute people who are giving my religion a bad name. Where are these so called moderate muslims???? This logic clearly spells out that there are no innocent muslims, if they are not terrorists themselves they at the very least support what the terrorists are doing. We are at war with islam, not just radical islam.


9 posted on 08/15/2006 5:26:11 PM PDT by xpertskir (Shave the Whales)
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The prospect of extra security checks for airline passengers on race and religion was being played down by UK government insiders on Tuesday for fear of alienating the Muslim community.

Then you still haven't learned your lesson.

Sooner or later, you're going to have to risk "alienating" these vermin or you're going to have to lay down and die.

I know which one I would choose.

10 posted on 08/15/2006 5:52:09 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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Let's worry about the blond hairs later,we haven't even got the middle east muslim part right yet.


11 posted on 08/15/2006 6:04:00 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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I did not suggest that we stop searching for other people, but it is idiotic not to do full racial profiling for people who do fit the mold.


12 posted on 08/15/2006 6:14:15 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior (Where does free speech end, and sedition begin?)
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To: mdittmar

I think the message is, don't drop your guard.


13 posted on 08/15/2006 6:23:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ritewingwarrior

I meant to add the article to the thread. You snuck in while I was posting :)


14 posted on 08/15/2006 6:23:44 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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I think the message is p.c. will kill us.


15 posted on 08/15/2006 6:27:18 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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If we can do it, so can they:


16 posted on 08/15/2006 6:27:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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You have seen Michael Jackson, right? :P


17 posted on 08/15/2006 6:30:42 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Good Point! ;)


18 posted on 08/15/2006 6:34:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: Calpernia

I think the possibility of those type of recruits is vastly outweighed by the needle in a haystack factor of treating ALL passengers to the same diluted level of scrutiny.

Limited resources, limited ability to scrutinize, limited ability to delay and inconvenience all passengers, dictate that profiling be used to limit the universe and subject the dangerous few to the highest level of scrutiny.

Besides the EL AL Israeli model has profiles for the blond and blue eyed.

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In 1986 a Palestinian terrorist, Nezar Hindawi, tried to blow up an Israeli airliner by sending his pregnant Irish girlfriend on board with a bomb in her luggage. The El Al screeners in London profiled a young pregnant woman traveling alone as suspicious, and found the bomb of which she had been blissfully unaware.

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/cgi-bin/newsviews.cgi/Intelligence/_Profiling___A_Nece.writeback


19 posted on 08/15/2006 6:35:54 PM PDT by dervish
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Hey, I'm still not convinced that Timothy McVeigh didn't convert to Islam.

McVeigh can be tied to Sahim Alwan of the lack 6 from a security guard job. And in the Phillipines, McVeigh coordinated with Abu Sayyaf.


20 posted on 08/15/2006 6:45:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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