Posted on 08/15/2006 6:27:46 AM PDT by Explodo
So I'm veining throguh this survey and find all kinds of disturbing stats in this report. It seems the older generation immigrat muslims have no real issue with fitting into westerniazed cultures, while the young generation has severe problems. Would this be because they are being trained in Wahhibi funded MAdrasses? Some reason we can't fathom?
I know there is more telling information here, have a stab at it.
Of that 2.7% probably 50% are male.
For the most part it's not the women who are the problem.
Precisely. If they want to live under their barbarian rules, they can do so in their home countries, not in Britain. Deport them forthwith.
You can invade a country with tanks and guns..or you can come in and just overpopulate it....in two generations..you won it....that is happening in Europe and in the United States...Europe will be Muslim...the US will be Mexican
I think the UN is working on that....it's a place called the whole world!
1,636,447 total muslims * 30% = 490,000 hard core muslims wanting Sharia law in Britian.
A half a million, Heaven Help us
My problem isn't so much with the 30% (as crazy as they are) as with the other 70%. Polls like this come out all the time...I remember one after the London bombings that said that about that same number sympathized with the terrorists. The question is, when is that other 70% going to stand up and be counted? This is their problem, and it's their responsibility to clean up. However, this alleged "moderate Muslim World" has, so far, been completely silent. Except for, of course, when they feel that governments are actively trying to take steps to limit the actions of that 30%, in which case they are out in the streets demanding blood. Until I see the other 70% of muslims out marching and denouncing terrorists and terrorism, then I have no problem with any measures taken to restrict or monitor muslims.
...and that's ONLY Britian...
France and Germany would be more than happy to help.
No, that's too warm, South Georgia is very cold, they'll be isolated completely with only penguins for company!!
Like Iran, these populations think they want that, until they actually have to live with it. Then when actually faced with that nightmare existance, like many millions of citizens in Iran, they want out big time.
Every leftist that I know personally have alot of prejudices, they just hide them well. I would say most of them are definately anti-semites. I've heard them make comments about blacks, you name it. As I said, they're just much better at hiding their true feelings. It's amazing, they can go on and on about racism and then turn around and say the most racist things imaginable. It truly baffles the mind.
Very few of them are actually Madrassa trained.
The problem is simply this: Islam is designed to be a combination of a religion and a form of government. For small numbers of expatriate, non-devout Muslims, the mosque is simply a place to get together and pray like they did in the old country. For larger numbers, the mosque becomes a civic center, almost like a cross between a church and a city hall.
In most Middle Eastern countries, this doesn't cause a problem, because the overall government doesn't really care what the mosques say so long as they keep their criticism of the dictator silent. In fact, the mosques help keep society organized, which is advantageous for a corrupt tyrant.
In Western countries, however, there are no secret police coming to shoot the Imam if he says "Chirac (or Blair or whoever) is a craven infidel and it is the duty of good Muslims to resist him." That means that the truly vicious versions of Islam, the ones that are kept at bay by gunpoint in the Middle East, are free to run wild.
What we are seeing in England is that the power of zealots can be curbed only by keeping their numbers low, or by keeping a lid on the mosques by way of a brutal, repressive policing. Otherwise, they will fight day and night to raise a Taliban style government wherever they are.
"Otherwise, they will fight day and night to raise a Taliban style government wherever they are."
Quoted for accuracy. The real lesson in all of this.
Q: What is the Islamic understanding about democracy, Is there any place for it in Islam?The 2/3 of the Mohammedan population who don't support sharia law are the equivalent of "pro-choice Catholics," i.e., not practicing.A: The common form of democracy prevalent at the moment is representative democracy, in which the citizens do not exercise their right of legislating and issuing political decrees in person, but rather through representatives chosen by them. The constitution of a democratic country will be largely influenced by the needs and wants of its people. Thus, if its people want casinos, bars, gay marriages, prostitution, etc. then with sufficient public pressure, all these vices can be accommodated for. From this, it becomes simple to understand that there can never be scope for a democratic rule from the Islamic point of view.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Amazed that as many as 30%...forgot about lying to infidels.
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