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52 percent of Israelis: IDF failed
Ynet ^ | August 14 2006 | Ilan Marciano

Posted on 08/14/2006 12:52:24 PM PDT by jmc1969

A Globes-Smith survey published on Monday showed that the majority of Israelis (52 percent) believe the IDF was unsuccessful in its Lebanon offensive, as opposed to 44 percent who believe the army did well.

According to the survey, 58 percent of the public believes Israel achieved few if any objectives in the war, up from 16 percent 11 days ago.

The survey showed that only 3 percent of Israelis believe that the country achieved most or all of its pre-war objectives, down from 33 percent a week ago.

According to the survey, were the elections held today Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s Kadima party would receive less than 20 mandates (as opposed to the 29 it received in the March elections), while Defense Minister Amir Peretz’s Labor party would receive only 12 mandates (as opposed to the 19 it obtained in the recent elections).

66 percent: Ceasefire agreement not good

Overall, 60 percent of those who voted for Kadima and Labor said they would not vote for them, with most becoming undecided voters at this time.

The picture emerging from the new survey is fundamentally different from the one prevalent during the month of the war in the North, where the public expressed its support for both the government and military – positions that can be characterized as "patriotic."

Only six percent of respondents said they thought the Security Council resolution that ended the fighting is good and achieves most of Israel's objections. Meanwhile, 66 percent believe the agreement is not good – only a quarter of those said this is the best agreement that can be obtained under the circumstances. Overall, 38 percent said the deal is not good but Israel had no choice but to accept it.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar
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To: Jeff Head
IMHO, it was their politicians who failed...by not letting the IDF do the job the way it must be done.

An all too familiar story in the U.S., past and present...

21 posted on 08/14/2006 1:02:20 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Jeff Head

When I saw the IDF bringing up the bulldozers... I knew they were going to handle it the same way as in Gaza.


22 posted on 08/14/2006 1:02:21 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: lesser_satan
If the latter is the case, does BiBi have a chance?

According to posters on other threads BiBi is all BS and no substance. He had his chance and revealed he can talk a good game and that is about it
23 posted on 08/14/2006 1:02:25 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: avacado

"the IDF was not allowed to win: the political leadership failed them and Israel."


Where'd I hear sumtin like dat B4?


24 posted on 08/14/2006 1:03:10 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: Jeff Head

Right. But bottom line, show us the butcher's bill, the Hezbavomit guys did most of the dying there.


25 posted on 08/14/2006 1:03:55 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: avacado

I agree. I can't understand why in the world the Israelis would agree to a cease fire other than public opinion. They will not win world public opinion in any circumstance.

Who cares what the world thinks of you as the knife slices across your neck?


26 posted on 08/14/2006 1:04:31 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: jmc1969

Total victory is the only option.


27 posted on 08/14/2006 1:05:28 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: jmc1969
A Globes-Smith survey published on Monday showed that the majority of Israelis (52 percent) believe the IDF was unsuccessful in its Lebanon offensive

Boy, the media just can't wait to pat the terrorists on the back.

28 posted on 08/14/2006 1:05:39 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Uncledave
Definitely time for him to come back. The IDF didn't fail, Olmert failed to have a pair enough to do what needed to be done. He pussy footed around for too long instead of being strong and decisive.
29 posted on 08/14/2006 1:07:11 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior (Where does free speech end, and sedition begin?)
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To: ChinaThreat

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I agree. I can't understand why in the world the Israelis would agree to a cease fire other than public opinion. They will not win world public opinion in any circumstance.
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Here is what I am hoping... and it's hope on my part only because I simply do not know.

I hope that Israel is just stalling to allow the world to see that Hezbollah has no intention of a cease-fire and then Israel pounds those jackasses into the history books!

I can only hope...


30 posted on 08/14/2006 1:08:18 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Dog

I still CAN'T believe why Israeli don't learn from us... Leftists sound good for a "supposed" utopia society but in reality they will get you killed!!!


31 posted on 08/14/2006 1:08:39 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Uncledave

The IDF didn't fail. Liberal Olmert failed when he didn't let the Generals run the show. Liberals always fail when it comes to military action. They're whiners, appeasers, cowards.


32 posted on 08/14/2006 1:11:41 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jmc1969
Israel did act; and any outlaw regime or terrorist groups that puts Israel or the civilized world in danger must be confronted and Israel did that.
33 posted on 08/14/2006 1:12:32 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: litehaus
"the IDF was not allowed to win: the political leadership failed them and Israel." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where'd I hear sumtin like dat B4?

Probably wherever you heard the news that Moqtada al-Sadr was surrounded in Najaf ... and our Marines were ordered to stand down.

34 posted on 08/14/2006 1:12:57 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: jmc1969

The IDF had four whole weeks to erase Hezbollah! There aren't any terrorists left in Iraq after only a few years of fighting, are there?

Most civilians nowadays expect wars to be done within the timeframe of a television miniseries. They're spoiled rotten!


35 posted on 08/14/2006 1:13:40 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --pre-Road-Map President Bush)
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To: jmc1969
The IDF did not fail. The military did exactly what they were ordered to do.
36 posted on 08/14/2006 1:14:28 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: familyop

Then the IDF should have been allowed to keep fighting.


37 posted on 08/14/2006 1:14:50 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: ritewingwarrior
Olmert has placed more faith in the U.N. to secure Israeli security than the IDF.

Resolution 1559 didn't work, and was not enforced, why should this new cease fire be any different.

The IDF was presented with an enormous tactical challenge, targeting and destroying the rocket launchers attacking their civilians. Nothing short of a full invasion and cleaning out all the territory captured would achieve this goal.

38 posted on 08/14/2006 1:14:52 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: avacado

The IDF didn't fail; Olmert kept it from winning. See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681379/posts


39 posted on 08/14/2006 1:17:13 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Jeff Head

You're right. Here's an earlier FR post that proves it: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681379/posts


40 posted on 08/14/2006 1:18:17 PM PDT by libstripper
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