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To: Colofornian

I replied in the previous post before I read this one. You admit Krakeauer is an unbiased source. Sorry for the off the cuff response slamming him more. I don't know much about Quinn.

Is there weird stuff going on in "Fundamentalist" apostate Mormon groups? Yes I would agree. It's weird stuff (like this article). I disagree though when what someone who is not of my faith (especially if they are a murderer) is compared to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as a proof that all Mormons are crazy.

The Church did go through a systematic "cleansing" (for lack of a better word, but it probably fits) of divergent views in the 80's. My parents had subscribed to Sunstone and Dialogue. The General Authorities spoke out against them in conference and told members to not subscribe to them. Some of the articles were good. Some clearly had false religious doctrine. I remember reading an article in my Mom's Sunstone promoting Homosexuality among Mormons. Much of it also promoted liberal views and feminism. So I am glad they purged the false doctrines.

BYU also has booted some feminist professors. Some history professors have been fired too. I am not particularly familiar with Quinn. I don't see a problem with it. Most churches have some sort of mechanism for enforcing doctrinal purity. Say for example a Bishop in the Catholic church preaches in services that abortion is OK. I assume there is some sort of Disciplinary proceeding and peer pressure brought to bear. If the Bishop fails to change/repent from their heresy and sin of preaching abortion they would be booted. The Mormon church has disciplinary courts to deal with False Doctrines.

A god book that incorporates both pro and anti literature about Church History is "Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling." There are topics Mormons do shy away from. For example Most people understand Brigham Young was a polygamist. Fewer understand Joesph Smith was. Some church members would rather not talk about it or just don't really know. Rough Stone Rolling does a good job of presenting the context of Joseph Smith and delves into obscure parts of history.


167 posted on 08/23/2006 7:58:47 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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(sp) #167 should read.. A good book that incorporates both pro and anti...


170 posted on 08/23/2006 8:41:34 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom
The Church did go through a systematic "cleansing" (for lack of a better word, but it probably fits) of divergent views in the 80's. My parents had subscribed to Sunstone and Dialogue. The General Authorities spoke out against them in conference and told members to not subscribe to them. Some of the articles were good. Some clearly had false religious doctrine...Much of it also promoted liberal views and feminism. So I am glad they purged the false doctrines.

The difference between my focus of Brigham and the above is that you are talking about grass roots here. I am talking about the supposed "living prophet."

BYU also has booted some feminist professors. Some history professors have been fired too....I don't see a problem with it. Most churches have some sort of mechanism for enforcing doctrinal purity. Say for example a Bishop in the Catholic church preaches in services that abortion is OK. I assume there is some sort of Disciplinary proceeding and peer pressure brought to bear. If the Bishop fails to change/repent from their heresy and sin of preaching abortion they would be booted. The Mormon church has disciplinary courts to deal with False Doctrines.

Again, now you're going to tell me that if blood atonement was an unofficial false teaching taught by Brigham that Brigham was subjected to the LDS church machinery of either being "fired" from his prophet job (like a BYU prof) or could have been run through "disciplinary courts to deal with false" teachings?

177 posted on 08/24/2006 2:08:44 PM PDT by Colofornian
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