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Man Mocks Islam Outside Muslim Candidate's House
WJZ-TV Baltimore, AP ^ | 08/13/06 | Ben Nuckols

Posted on 08/13/2006 7:31:06 PM PDT by sasha123

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To: Androcles
And I stand by what I said. If this protestore wants to do these things in genuinely public forums and at similar events, good luck to him.

The candidate in question has his campaign headquarters at home. Regardless, the public sidewalk in front of a private residence is public property. It is legal and proper to protest there.

Stalking the candidate is harassment and a tactic which (deliberate or not) reeks of attempting to intimidate and frighten the cadidate and his family.

That's a wussy attitude.

Free speech ain't always pleasant. If you're a public figure, you invite dissent with your advocacy. I've been to plenty of political protests in front of private homes. The police always said the same thing: no noisemaking equipment without a permit (i.e. shut off the megaphones), no blocking entry or exit to the property; and keep moving back and forth on the sidewalk (i.e. don't stand in one place).

Consequently, where the guy in question in this thread may have messed up, is in sitting in a lawnchair. ;)

As for being in NZ, it may surprise you to know we have political dynamics and tensions here. I condemn tactics like this regardless of whether I agree with the protestor or not. There's a difference between legitimate debate and damaging your own cause with poorly chosen tactics. This will rrebound on your protestor. No one like a bully. He may not be one in actuality, but he runs the risk of giving that impression.

The Million Mom March hated the TRT. We were delighted. When a newspaper reporter asked me, "Your organization shouted hostile slogans at the mothers when they released the white doves of peace. Do you have a comment on that?"

I replied with a very sweet smile, "Yes. We're bringing hawks next year."

A shame he didn't print that.
201 posted on 08/14/2006 4:54:08 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: sasha123

I suppose he is in prison for life now right?


203 posted on 08/14/2006 5:00:24 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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To: ladyinred

I didn't think it was right that all Mr. Truett's information was posted on Saqib Ali's campaign website

http://www.alifordelegate.com/blog/


204 posted on 08/14/2006 5:21:55 PM PDT by sasha123 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: JCEccles
So you're free to engage in snide, racist, personal attacks but Truitt isn't?

On the contrary, Truitt's actions inspire the moniker.

205 posted on 08/14/2006 5:43:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: kingu
I still want a t-shirt that has one of the Danish Mohamed images and a caption underneath - How do you know what he looks like? You seen a picture somewhere?

ROFLMAO!!!

206 posted on 08/14/2006 5:45:58 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Robert Teesdale
The candidate in question has his campaign headquarters at home.

I guess you didn't bother to read my responses on the thread where I acknowledged that I'd missed the Home/HQ issue. Already dealt with.

Free speech ain't always pleasant.

Agreed, but I do think that the more effective protests are those that aren't deliberately intimidating, bullying or vulgar. Maybe that's just me:>)

As for your Hawks comment at the million man march, well done. It was a good line. Your protest was in public and I have no problems at all with congratulating you. If however you'd picketed a key organiser's house in the leadup to the march and been protesting and deomnstrating there and then, I'd find that repellent. What you actually did was a textbook example of how protests should be. the

207 posted on 08/14/2006 5:47:55 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Androcles

I emailed Saqib Ali with questions regarding his position on the WOT and if he was willing to denounce Terror attacks in the name of Islam in the US and abroad?

He reply? Are you a constituent, if not we are not able to give you information. Then he wanted my home address if I was a constituent.

I email congressmen, senators outside my district and have never ever been denied a response!


208 posted on 08/14/2006 6:08:11 PM PDT by sasha123 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: sasha123

He's running for cover, because he is caught between the demands of his religion to fight non-Muslims until they are humiliated and forced to pay the punitive tax of the dhimmi, and the demands of a legitimate run for elective office in which non-Muslims are still permitted to cast ballots.


209 posted on 08/14/2006 6:17:10 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Androcles
I guess you didn't bother to read my responses on the thread where I acknowledged that I'd missed the Home/HQ issue. Already dealt with.

Yep, posting on the fly. Legally speaking, however, I think that the issue wasn't turning on whether the candidate was headquartering out of his house... but on the protestor seated in a lawn chair. He wasn't moving... that's "squatting" or something like that.

Agreed, but I do think that the more effective protests are those that aren't deliberately intimidating, bullying or vulgar. Maybe that's just me:>)

As a political issue becomes more critical, the vulgarity doth increase. Unpleasant, but there you have it - politics, like laws and sausages, should not be observed closely by those offended in its making.

As for your Hawks comment at the million man march, well done. It was a good line. Your protest was in public and I have no problems at all with congratulating you.

Thank you. I'm glad I came up with it. The last thing I wanted to do was stammer and fluster when accused of Frightening Mothers.

If however you'd picketed a key organiser's house in the leadup to the march and been protesting and deomnstrating there and then, I'd find that repellent.

Sure did. Approximately fifty 911 calls later, the assorted sheriff's deputies and municipal police assembled there with us bade us good day, and left the restrictions with us aforementioned: keep moving, no blocking, and no amplification. :)

The neighbors of course all came out to see what was going on, and the amusing thing was that our political target had just moved in - and her political beliefs and activities, which we were protesting, were rather anathema to the neighborhood.

What you actually did was a textbook example of how protests should be.

Yes, I believe so. While the picketing of a person's private residence in response to their public activities is a line drawn across taste, rather than the Law or its municipal code offspring... it is sometimes necessary to be tasteless if one wishes to achieve a specific political outcome.
210 posted on 08/14/2006 6:17:17 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: Androcles
As for your Hawks comment at the million man march, well done. It was a good line. Your protest was in public and I have no problems at all with congratulating you. If however you'd picketed a key organiser's house in the leadup to the march and been protesting and deomnstrating there and then, I'd find that repellent.

What if that key organizer had publically announced that her home was the regional headquarters of the Million Mom March, complete with a sign out front?

211 posted on 08/14/2006 6:18:29 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

See my earlier response on this very point. It would be legitimate and it would be stupid of her.

While you would be technically correct in showing up with as many of your protestors as desired,it would hint of bullying, be unfairly disruptive to neighbnours who did not have any part in her actions and would probably gain her sympathy.

Anyway, I must work now but I'll check back in a few hours.


212 posted on 08/14/2006 6:26:39 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Androcles

Since the man's home is also his campaign HQ, what you are saying is moot. If his campaign HQ were in some strip mall, then I would agree that sitting in front of his home would be bad form, but that isn't the case, is it?


213 posted on 08/14/2006 6:27:09 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: All
To clarify, the residence in question was owned by a volunteer for the Million Mom March, who had offered her home up as the place to make signs, silk screen T-shirts, and so on, the day before their Mother's Day event at the State Capitol in Denver. Everyone was asked to arrive at noon to help.

At 11:50, two trucks (one of them a camoflauge Suburban with bulletproof glass and drop-screen armor on the windows - quite tastefully done; all it lacked was the .50 on the roof) roared up, parked across the street, and discharged about 15-20 TRT activists with signs, megaphones, and our trademark blue shirts.

You've never seen a front door slam that fast in your life.

Was it intimidating? Absolutely. Was it legal? Completely. Was it tasteless?

Not quite as tasteless as her efforts at enabling genocide. Consequently, any ill-mannered display on our part was more than called for, considering the murderously evil ideology she was attempting to enforce upon the people of the nation.
214 posted on 08/14/2006 6:47:12 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: Covenantor

I had written earlier that I had emailed Saqib Ali regarding his view on the WOT and if he would be willing to denounce terrorist attacks in the name of Islam and represent the Muslim community denouncing radical Islamic acts - he refused to answer my questions because I did not live in his district.


215 posted on 08/14/2006 7:42:37 PM PDT by sasha123 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: attiladhun2

Try reading my later posts...:)


216 posted on 08/15/2006 1:52:06 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: sasha123
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"...he refused to answer my questions [denounce terrorist attacks in the name of Islam] because I did not live in his district.

217 posted on 08/15/2006 8:11:53 AM PDT by Covenantor
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