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Baby bottle 'used as bomb'
Daily Telegraph ^ | August 14, 2006 | Fiona Hudson

Posted on 08/13/2006 12:40:51 PM PDT by generalhammond

A HUSBAND and wife arrested in the British terror raids allegedly planned to take their six-month-old baby on a mid-air suicide mission.

Scotland Yard police are quizzing Abdula Ahmed Ali, 25, and his 23-year-old wife Cossor over suspicions they were to use their baby's bottle to hide a liquid bomb.

The theory is one of the reasons security chiefs are now insisting mothers taste babies' milk at check-in desks before allowing them to take bottles aboard flights.

The pair are among up to 23 suspects being questioned over a plot to bring down nine airliners over five US cities, killing thousands of people in the air and on the ground.

The questioning of the group comes as British Government sources yesterday revealed many of those suspects posed as relief workers to travel to al-Qaeda training camps in Pakistan.

It has also been revealed that security services are secretly monitoring "dozens" of fresh plots involving hundreds of suspects which could be unleashed at any time.

One government source said at least 30 priority cases were under urgent investigation.

"All those 30 are seen as serious, determined attacks that will happen unless we stop them," the source said.

Police spent yesterday combing through the Alis' east London housing commission flat for clues.

Cossor took her baby with her to the police station during last week's raids but her son is now being cared for by grandparents.

Cossor's grandfather, Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Abdula had travelled to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

"We didn't understand what the hurry was and why he needed to go," Mr Ahmed said.

A neighbour at the flats where the married couple lived said he would be stunned if claims were true.

"I simply cannot believe he could have been involved in a plot like this. He is religious and seemed to love his family," the neighbour said.

"I would never have dreamed he could have been involved in anything like this."

A family friend of Cossor said she had known the arrested mother 12 years and believed her to be innocent.

"I think it is a case of mistaken identity. The last thing she'd be interested in is terrorism. They are just simple day-to-day people going about their own business," she said.

Police in England have reportedly recovered bottles containing peroxide, including some with false bottoms, from a recycling centre close to the homes of some of the arrested suspects.

It has emerged MI5 agents launched covert intrusions on the homes of some suspects several weeks ago in "sneak and peek" operations to plant listening devices and gather evidence ahead of the arrests last week.

Links between suspects in the jet bomb plot and those behind the London 7/7 attacks have also come to light.

There are reports as many as five of those arrested attended the same terror training camp in Pakistan as two of the July 7 London suicide bombers.

And US intelligence sources said they believed at least two of the suspects had trained in Karachi and met al-Qaeda operatives in the lead up to the 7/7 attacks.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurabia; islam; islamicnazis; jihadineurope; londonairlineplot; muslims; terrorism
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To: fso301

That's correct.

What do you do to someone who is willing to DIE to kill you? You must kill them FIRST.

Of course, we can't go around killing all of the Muslims in America. But we can "level" one or more of these nations. They will get the picture. That we are serious about killing them off. They will quiet down for a while.


21 posted on 08/13/2006 12:57:06 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Man50D
It's not a fascist version of Islam. It is Islam!

The core of Islam? Yes, I think you are correct.

22 posted on 08/13/2006 12:58:08 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: CindyDawg
No, there was a thread yesterday about how they are sleepers and blend in as normal neighbors. To me, testing the milk isn't going to do any good. Unless, it is stuff that will kill you instantly, why would they care. They are going to die anyway.

This occured immediately to me too, but I felt foolish stating the obvious. Perhaps it's not so obvious; or perhaps the separate explosive ingredients induce effects tolerable for a couple of hours.

In any event, I would be on the lookout for passengers who get inexplicably sick on any flight.

23 posted on 08/13/2006 1:02:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
this married man must not have been motivated by the promise of virgins then? And what would the young mother expect to get out of it? And what would the child's choice have been on the matter? How anyone can think this insane cult with all it's insane myths and beliefs and edicts and practitioners , is anything valid or worthy or honorable is beyond all understanding. How can a significant percentage of the Earth's population have faith in such rubbish?

Hard as it might be to believe all that, how much more perplexing it is to me that so many of us are preaching, with a straight face, that as a "religion" we cannot discriminate against it!
These are presumably normal and rational Americans!

24 posted on 08/13/2006 1:05:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: nj26

70-year-old Swedish grandmothers can be duped into unknowingly carrying something aboard for someone else. I say strip-search them all.


25 posted on 08/13/2006 1:07:32 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (A member of the Appalachian-American minority -- and proud of it!)
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To: i_dont_chat
They will get the picture. That we are serious about killing them off. They will quiet down for a while.

And what do we do next time?

26 posted on 08/13/2006 1:07:38 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: generalhammond

aldo moro


27 posted on 08/13/2006 1:08:30 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our Time®)
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To: Real Cynic No More
70-year-old Swedish grandmothers can be duped into unknowingly carrying something aboard for someone else. I say strip-search them all.

This silly statement is getting tedious.

I have no stay-awake nights about the Swedish grandmother possibility. Unless it is a "naturalized" (read faudulent) swedish-muslim grandmother.

28 posted on 08/13/2006 1:10:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Kirkwood
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." - Golda Meir

Poor modernist, westernized Golda! She just didn't get it!

They DO love their children more than they hate the Jews.

That's why they rejoice when they become glorious shahids and die for Islam.

That Jews die as a result is just an extra, special bonus.

29 posted on 08/13/2006 1:12:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: generalhammond
Well then, I guess the new regulation will be that formula must be in the original sealed container--of course that will make it tough on those that express milk.

What is this world coming to?

30 posted on 08/13/2006 1:12:03 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: chadwimc

Perhaps only breast feeding mothers should be allowed on airplanes.....
susie


31 posted on 08/13/2006 1:19:23 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Publius6961
this is surely no religion , but a very convoluted cult
based on denial !
"Why do they hate us ? And what can we do about it?
Islam wishes for and plans for a worldwide new Caliphate.
They feel it is their right and their duty to advance this agenda upon all of mankind . They are right and we are wrong
In dealing with this agenda we have one of 3 choices :
1:Surrender to their agenda and submit to a worldwide form of islam . We cannot surrender to this .
2: Negotiate with them . How can you negotiate with an ideology that says that they are right and superior and empowered by God and that the rest of us must be subjugated to their visions?
3: Confront them , confront islam . This is what we are doing and this is why they hate us..... "
32 posted on 08/13/2006 1:22:04 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: generalhammond
Scotland Yard police are quizzing Abdula Ahmed Ali, 25, and his 23-year-old wife Cossor over suspicions they were to use their baby's bottle to hide a liquid bomb.

Oppressive Britain!

Any American perp knows you have the absolute right to refuse to cooperate with the cops even on terrorism.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

33 posted on 08/13/2006 1:22:31 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: brytlea

explosive silicon implants?


34 posted on 08/13/2006 1:22:42 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: ajwharton

You ask a very interesting and important question. If the enemy is willing to sacrifice their own babies to kill us, how do we fight them?


35 posted on 08/13/2006 1:22:46 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: generalhammond
The theory is one of the reasons security chiefs are now insisting mothers taste babies' milk at check-in desks before allowing them to take bottles aboard flights.

These cultists are going to blow themselves up. Does anything think they wouldn't drink some liquid explosive to do that? Test all baby formula from Arab passengers for explosives. When white or black Americans begin doing this, check them too.
36 posted on 08/13/2006 1:28:42 PM PDT by Vision (“I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me" Philippians 3:14)
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To: LeoWindhorse

If that's an issue, very few women from Boca Raton will be allowed on airplanes....
susie


37 posted on 08/13/2006 1:32:09 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Well then, I guess the new regulation will be that formula must be in the original sealed container--of course that will make it tough on those that express milk.

Or another way, the formula could be ordered directly from the airline the same way special diet meals are ordered and then given to the passenger after departing.

38 posted on 08/13/2006 1:33:21 PM PDT by navyblue (Semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: Publius6961

This isn't going away. We can only do so much. People that wants to blow a plane up are eventually going to do it. We have to make them not want to. How though? How far do we go with this before we realize we need to do something else? Body scans and flying naked? I would think, reasonable charter flights could make a lot of money right now.


39 posted on 08/13/2006 1:43:51 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Dallas59

If you look on a map, Iran would have to get its troops to Syria through Iraq and Turkey. Not much chance of that.


40 posted on 08/13/2006 1:54:17 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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