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Is an Armament Sickening U.S. Soldiers? [Latest anti-war angle w/ PC photos]
AOL News ^ | Aug. 12,2006 | DEBORAH HASTINGS

Posted on 08/13/2006 6:36:02 AM PDT by yankeedame

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To: Gondring

Im no expert either, but isuspect that metal toxicity is the only real issue with DU


41 posted on 08/13/2006 7:57:23 AM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: yankeedame
morphine, methadone, a muscle relaxant, an antidepressant, a stool softener. Viagra for sexual dysfunction.

I bet he's fun at a party.

42 posted on 08/13/2006 8:08:13 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: yankeedame
Ammunition coated with depleted uranium

Read no further. They do not know what they are writing about.

Hint, the shells are not coated with DU, they have DU cores, often covered by an aerodynamic shell of something very light, like aluminum.

43 posted on 08/13/2006 8:08:36 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: yankeedame
It takes at least 10 minutes and a large glass of orange juice to wash down all the pills - morphine, methadone, a muscle relaxant, an antidepressant, a stool softener. Viagra for sexual dysfunction. Valium for his nerves.
Morphine AND Methadone??? An Antidepressant AND Valium??? Then a Muscle Relaxant And Viagra?

Uh... something is wrong with that picture. There's certain drugs you DON'T take together (I know). Me thinks this 'story' is BS.

If true, the only part that makes sense is the Valium. (and if he didn't take the 'Muscle Relaxant' I doubt he'd need the Viagra)

44 posted on 08/13/2006 8:20:51 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: FReepaholic
I'm not following you here. Are you dismissing out of hand their claims of illness simply because they've brought suit against the Army?

No,no,no...sorry if I gave that impression.

When I read the line about them getting lawyers to sue the Army the word that jumped out at me was lawyers. Who, as we all know, are masters at setting the stage before they go in for the $$$ kill. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this article was a plant (one of many) and the writer a stooge (ditto) for the lawyers on this.

45 posted on 08/13/2006 8:29:08 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Spunky

morphine AND methadone? Gee whiz, I didn't think they prescribed methadone to anyone unless they were opiate addicts in the first place. Since these 2 also cause constipation, I suppose the stool-softener is a must.

It sounds like much of his illness is probably caused by the drugs he is taking.


46 posted on 08/13/2006 8:33:22 AM PDT by scan58
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To: yankeedame
...When I read the line about them getting lawyers to sue the Army the word that jumped out at me was lawyers....

I share your disdain and distrust of lawyers.

However, I recall the decades battle waged by those Vietnam veterans that were poisoned by Agent Orange.

A method they used, and is used by a lot of people trying to get information out of a stonewalling government or other entity, is to file suit.

Filing suit forces the other party into disclosure.

That may be what these guys are doing.

A lot of people immediately pooh-pooh the prospect of someone getting sick from DU. But, we're all different. Some of us get sick from peanuts. Some from seafood. Etc.

Out of a military force of hundreds of thousands that have served time in the Gulf, there's bound to be some that get sick from things other don't.

I don't know enough about DU one way or another to dismiss it out of hand.

47 posted on 08/13/2006 8:45:48 AM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: yankeedame

"It takes at least 10 minutes and a large glass of orange juice to wash down all the pills - morphine, methadone, a muscle relaxant, an antidepressant, a stool softener. Viagra for sexual dysfunction. Valium for his nerves."

So he's taking:
Morphine
Methadone
Valium
musle relaxers
AND an antidepressant

And he wonders why he suffers from "sexual disfunction"?

That's a drug cocktail that would put The King in a grave.


48 posted on 08/13/2006 9:10:59 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: avg_freeper
"Shoot, a fellah could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff"


49 posted on 08/13/2006 9:14:49 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: scan58

"Gee whiz, I didn't think they prescribed methadone to anyone unless they were opiate addicts in the first place."

Methadone is commonly used for pain. I was on it for about 2 years for pain caused by herniated discs.

There is no "high" to it.


50 posted on 08/13/2006 9:18:39 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: yankeedame
OK, one story.

During the first Gulf War a unit's chemical alarm went off and they all put on their MOPP gear. In the years following the war some of them made all kinds of claims about what the "Chemical exposure" did to them and all the help they needed for their problems.

The only problem was that a bunch of guys I know who were working with the local forces drove through the unit while they were Mopped up. The US and local troops were riding in trucks and not wearing MOPP gear. They just shrugged and drove on with the mission.

Up to four years after the war the guys that rode through on the trucks were just as normal as me. Hmmm, I think I need to rethink that last sentence.
51 posted on 08/13/2006 9:19:11 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: mylife
He thinks it may have been the toxic air from the burning oilfields

I've been saying that for years......

52 posted on 08/13/2006 10:15:35 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss.)
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To: EEDUDE
There is no "high" to it.

That could depend on how many milligrams a person is on. It may not be a high like heroin/dilaudid/morphine, etc., but it is a high.
But I sure didn't know the prescribed it for pain in the US. Seems like over-kill to give the guy methadone AND morphine.

53 posted on 08/13/2006 10:18:02 AM PDT by scan58
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To: Hot Tabasco

It was bad
Saddam polluted half the planet with that stunt.
The troops were at gound zero


54 posted on 08/13/2006 10:47:40 AM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mistybella
While he may be wrong in what he thinks has caused his illnesses he certainly deserves some answers and compensation. If he was gassed by Iraquis then it is the responsibility of our Goverment to find that out and hold the Iraqi Goverment accountable.

Which Iraqi government would that be? The one we destroyed or the one we put in place?

55 posted on 08/13/2006 11:04:53 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: been_lurking


The Iraqi goverment that pays the bills, if our men were sickened by the goverment of the Iraqi people then that goverment should compensate those affected. They have oil, they are not the poor kid on the block we helped in their need and they shouldn't get a free ride.


56 posted on 08/13/2006 12:16:12 PM PDT by mistybella
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To: yankeedame
It is 60 percent as radioactive as natural uranium. Which means it's LESS RADIOACTIVE than natural uranium.
57 posted on 08/13/2006 12:21:22 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: yankeedame

I would guess these problems are the result of exposure to low levels of nerve agents that were released either intentionally by the Iraqi forces or unintentionally by the bombing of the Iraqi munitions storage facilities as a part of the war, rather than dust from the Deplete Uranium shells.

I think it's pretty obvious that there were chemical weapons in Iraq at the time of the U.S. invasion, and some of the stuff got released.


58 posted on 08/13/2006 1:33:20 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Pontiac

I can not imagine why a tanker would need such a device.

To explain why his ***** are glowing?

Don't know, the Army said it.


59 posted on 08/14/2006 8:36:09 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Gondring

is comparing radioactivity of DU to that of "natural uranium metal"...

Ah, missed the metal part. However, I knew about the heavy metal poisoning. My one successful paper that I wrote in High School Chemistry was on heavy metal poisoning. I still have it because it was the only one that passed. (My trophy case is real small)


60 posted on 08/14/2006 8:40:06 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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