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Targeted by Gun Nuts
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 13, 2006 | Jenny Price

Posted on 08/13/2006 4:39:07 AM PDT by n230099

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To: Joe Brower

Bang


141 posted on 08/13/2006 8:48:07 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Man what twisted logic. She is upset at us for questioning her - which every MSM source needs to be questioned today - and then turns to insults and half truths to end her article. She also forgot to mention that at one point several Freepers mentioned that they were sorry for her loss. I guess you cannot have an honest discussion from different point of view with anyone from the left. I still like to catch them lying and FR is the best at it. Green helmet guy where are you?
142 posted on 08/13/2006 9:00:01 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: JillValentine

Great tagline, JillValentine.


143 posted on 08/13/2006 9:02:23 AM PDT by MonicaG (Praying for our troops, leadership, Israel & IDF. Thanks to our veterans & their families.)
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To: n230099

A lot of gun grabbers sincerely believe that because they themselves don't have the self control to be trusted with a weapon no one else does either. They're wrong, of course, but they labor on in ignorance.

Such appears to be the case here.


144 posted on 08/13/2006 9:03:31 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: n230099

If the mother had run them down with her car, would Jenny be pushing for a ban on automobiles?


145 posted on 08/13/2006 9:06:21 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: n230099
The only thing resembling an argument, if you don't count that idiotic remark about the Second Amendment, is this:

But like David's killer, thousands of law-abiding citizens annually become criminals when they pick up a firearm and shoot other people.

And smoking marijuana will turn you into a homicidal fiend. Next.

146 posted on 08/13/2006 9:09:49 AM PDT by redbaiter
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To: dirtboy
Gun-obsessed? I own two guns for home defense. Haven't shot them in years.

Man, you need to get out to the range.

I do, too.

< }B^)

147 posted on 08/13/2006 9:26:36 AM PDT by Erasmus (<This page left intentionally vague>)
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To: StACase
I noticed that she mentioned statistics, but didn't cite any of them. I Wonder Why that is?

I just emailed her a polite message, asker her for her source of those numbers.

I'm not going to hold my breath. I also CC'd a copy of the message to another email account of mine, just in case she decided to try to get my email account banned.

Mark

148 posted on 08/13/2006 9:28:01 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

One of the statistics she cites in her original article:

"Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense."

I've used a gun twice in self-defense. Both times, the bad guys decided against pursuing things. Both times, I didn't kill someone - I merely made it clear I would rather go down fighting, and the other folks left. Quickly.

Neither instance is documented anywhere - so how meaningful is her statistic?


149 posted on 08/13/2006 9:35:06 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: Erasmus

That's why one of them is a 12-gauge. Ya don't need to be a very good shot with one of those. :^)


150 posted on 08/13/2006 9:40:09 AM PDT by dirtboy (Why does Israel take border security seriously but we do not, when Islamists wish us both harm?)
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To: Alia

"I cannot say whether the woman who shot my brother was vicious or insane"

I can. Try, "Both!"

From the description in the original article, it was pre-meditated murder.

She chose a handgun. A shotgun would have worked, or a car.

I'm sorry for her loss, but I've used the presence of a gun twice to keep myself in one piece. And no, I didn't fire a shot. The fact that I could was enough to end what would otherwise have turned into 8 on 1 fights against bigger men than myself.

So - should I have died so her brother could have been killed by a car instead of a gun?


151 posted on 08/13/2006 9:40:44 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
A lot of gun grabbers sincerely believe that because they themselves don't have the self control to be trusted with a weapon no one else does either.

Like one of the Million Mom March founders who later shot someone?

152 posted on 08/13/2006 9:41:11 AM PDT by dirtboy (Why does Israel take border security seriously but we do not, when Islamists wish us both harm?)
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To: n230099
Who dares defy the awful wrath of the Pajamahadin?!

Who dares impugn the honor of the dreaded Underwear Battalion!?"

Fie!

153 posted on 08/13/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: Mr Rogers
The fact that I could was enough to end what would otherwise have turned into 8 on 1 fights against bigger men than myself.

And that never figures into the self-defense calculations of the gun-grabbers - by design. They like to claim that a gun can only deter by killing someone. However, nothing changes the mind of those wishing harm like the sound of a gun racking a round into firing position, or the sound of a hammer being cocked back on a revolver.

154 posted on 08/13/2006 9:42:45 AM PDT by dirtboy (Why does Israel take border security seriously but we do not, when Islamists wish us both harm?)
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To: Bear_Slayer
Murdered by governments, not killed because of wars. If you include those numbers, it would be much higher. It's weird to argue about just how dangerous government is and find somebody to the RIGHT of me on the issue.

I always illustrate my point by asking gun control nuts and liberals "Who do you know that can come in right and take everything your family has and there's not a damn thing you can do about it?"

You may get a mumbled reply about "the Mafia" or some such. I always respond that the Mafia doesn't bother you if you don't get involved with them, but you CAN'T avoid involvement with the government, and their resources to destroy your life are essentially infinite. I've never gotten a response from anybody after that.

155 posted on 08/13/2006 10:14:34 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: n230099
The discussions left me profoundly sad. "You know," a friend tried to reassure me, "these are just guys who sit in front of their computers at 3 a.m. in their underwear." ... But when these gun-obsessed guys in their underwear talk to like-minded guys, they build a community that reinforces a level of intolerance that is off the charts. After all, the Internet doesn't create community. People create community — and how the Internet is used depends on the people who use it.

Note the complete lack of comprehension that women might have a desire, need, or right to defend themselves with weapons.

Instead, the writer skips over logic like a water bug and lets her emotion overcome her intellect. In particular, she seems to have a thing about perceived male dominance in her life.

Misandry: a hatred of men.

What is she arguing for? Repealing the Second Amendment? Confiscating all men's underwear? Repealing the First Amendment (or perhaps just regulating the Internet to death, and converting the USA to Red China)? And by extension of her "argument," would she be in favor of neutering *all* men just because a very few of them might be rapists?

I am sorry for her personal family tragedy. Yet she chooses to take advantage of that by coming out in public and making a political statement in favor of gun confiscation, feminism (?), regulation of freedom of speech, and communistic principles-- Harry Truman, DWM, said it best: if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Jenny, Jenny, read this: your professional victimologist bleating resonates with hypocrisy and self-pity. I doubt this is what David would want, his name and life descerated by your personal politics and animosity towards good people (of both sexes) that you are leveraging his story to attempt to control.

156 posted on 08/13/2006 12:46:56 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: n230099

I love the "logic" of the anti-handgun people. A certain crazed person wants to shoot someone for some alleged offense, but if a handgun is not available, the crazed person will not think of using a rifle or a shotgun. What great "logic" (snort).


157 posted on 08/13/2006 1:11:05 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: JillValentine

You are correct. From personal experience I have deduced that many women, like my wife, hate guns and would like to see them totally eliminated. The sad fact is that far more women have been murdered because they DIDN'T have a gun available to defend themselves. The plain truth is the average woman is no match for the average man in terms of physical strength. A handgun is the big equalizer. Even allowing for tragic cases like the murder of her brother, I'm willing to bet that the use of handguns to save peoples lives from attackers is far greater than the loss of life from the misuse of handguns. Statistics prove it. Never mentioned is the number of women who would still be alive if they had been armed at the time someone attacked them.


158 posted on 08/13/2006 1:17:56 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: ExpatGator
Please send her an email to this effect; and you might want to consider cc:'ing the editor at the LA Times. You can find her email address earlier on this thread.

Be sure to let her know you are a Freeper. She has a low opinion of us.

Cheers!

159 posted on 08/13/2006 2:29:23 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: n230099
I can tell you why the right to carry a 9-millimeter semiautomatic handgun with a 10-shot clip is not guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment

Another liberal twit with absolutely no knowledge of the history of the Constitution.

These are exactly the kinds of firearms protected by the 2nd Amendment.

L

160 posted on 08/13/2006 2:35:13 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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