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Pan-Islamism Challenges Idea Of Nation-State (Mark Steyn: Meet The Real Globalists Alert)
Chicago Sun Times ^
| 08/13/06
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 08/13/2006 3:27:00 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: nathanbedford; pieceofthepuzzle
Excellent analysis of the lefist program and its origins as a program.
Leftists love authoritarianism and hate freedom, and one thing that Steyn didn't mention is that Islam is a cult that views itself as a political system as well as a religion. It is an authoritarian political system, ruled by a particular class, accumulating the wealth in the hands of the few while spouting a sort of collectivist babble to cover it up - and, in other words, right up the leftist alley.
The secret with leftists is that they always assume that they are going to be the ones in charge in any authoritarian system; after all, they know better than anyone else, and it is their right to be in charge. They won't be the ones suffering in some benighted goat-ridden village 200 years hence, when our societies have regressed to 8th century conditions; they'll be the ones with the carefully tended and still functional jet, who get to go off to the Saudi pleasure palaces (which will still have electricity) on the coast of Spain to enjoy the women, alcohol and drugs permitted to Allah's elite.
Leftists are authoritarian elitists, and are so self deluded it's impossible to reason with them. But that's how they envision their life under Islam. They're special.
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posted on
08/13/2006 6:44:36 AM PDT
by
livius
To: nathanbedford
Cultural Marxism would never have found accommodation in the United States had the Roosevelt Administration not imported the Frankfurt School when they fled Germany. Don't think for a minute that America's elite didn't know what they were doing.
The perfidy of the collectivist American elite has an extensive history, sir, long before the emergence of Gramsci.
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:34:13 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
To: sauropod
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:34:58 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
To: backhoe
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:36:41 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
To: nathanbedford; Carry_Okie
I am coming to the conclusion that the elites in the left are not purblind, not the misguided victims of their own worldview, but cynical high-stakes gamblers who risk plunging themselves and us into a new dark age if it will enhance their own chances to rule. Unless one believes that the top elitists on the left genuinely do not see the threat to Western civilization posed by a Muslim theocracy, there is no other plausible explanation. Correct assessment. But I think it's more lethal than that. The Left is not viewing this as a high stakes poker game. They believe that they are Born to Rule and They Know So Much Better than the Rest of Us.
Just ask them. They'll tell you.
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:41:21 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
To: backhoe
Morning backhoe!
You're preaching to the choir...
Rancher with a case extendahoe
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:42:59 AM PDT
by
OregonRancher
(illigitimus non carborundun)
To: goldstategop
Enoch Powell was right about Rivers of Blood being the eventual result of Britain's immigration policies.
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:43:26 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
To: Mr. Mojo
Not only not allowing Muslims from anywhere to immigrate, but sending them all back to their home country hell holes.
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:45:18 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings
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posted on
08/13/2006 8:13:05 AM PDT
by
knighthawk
(We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
To: goldstategop
Absent a determination to throttle the ideology (pan-Islamism), we're about to witness the unraveling of the worldThis is a dead-center shot right to the very heart of the problem.
It should be plastered on every billboard in the world.
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posted on
08/13/2006 8:52:54 AM PDT
by
Gritty
(Absent a determination to throttle pan-Islamism, we'll witness the unraveling of the world-Mk Steyn)
To: metesky; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
Thanks!
Steyn ping!
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT
by
Pokey78
(‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
To: goldstategop
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:18:02 AM PDT
by
Burlem
To: backhoe
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:36:27 AM PDT
by
expatguy
(http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
To: goldstategop
"Absent a determination to throttle the ideology, we're about to witness the unraveling of the world."
It would have read better, and been more typical of Mark, to have said, "Throttle the theology," but even Mr Steyn isn't quite ready to admit what we're up against.
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:43:12 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: nikos1121
Not a religion???? Islam worships an invisible man in the sky. If that doesn't qualify, neither do some others I can think of.
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:45:00 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: OregonRancher
Morning backhoe! You're preaching to the choir... Rancher with a case extendahoeAw, I know- maybe the repetition reaches a few who haven't seen it.
You must have an extendable dipper- that's a handy extra feature on a 'hoe.
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:52:51 AM PDT
by
backhoe
("It's so easy to spend someone else's money." [My Dad, circa 1958])
To: expatguy
Thanks- I'll pass your link along.
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:53:45 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: goldstategop
I'm a fan of Mark Steyn, but here he goes down a cliched road to a dead end in analysis.
I consider myself a Christian first, an American second.
That sequence is not what is at issue.
It is the nature of Islam, which is more of an ideology than a religion, as we are used to considering such allegiances.
And as an ideology, and a religion, its current practices are wicked.
If Islam's practices were life-enhacing, it wouldn't be significant that young Britons consider themselves Muslims forst, and Britons second.
It's the religion, stupid.....
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posted on
08/13/2006 9:53:56 AM PDT
by
happygrl
To: goldstategop
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posted on
08/13/2006 10:05:50 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
To: goldstategop; Pokey78
The difference is that, for Western do-gooders, it's mostly a pose: They may occasionally swing by some Third World basket-case and condescend to the natives, but for the most part the multiculti set have no wish to live anywhere but an advanced Western democracy. It's a quintessential piece of leftie humbug. They may think globally, but they don't act on it.The money paragraph in this piece as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for the ping Pokey.
FMCDH(BITS)
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posted on
08/13/2006 10:35:34 AM PDT
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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