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V-J Day commemoration called discriminatory
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | August 12, 2006 | Chelsea Phua (A.P.)

Posted on 08/12/2006 4:01:36 PM PDT by Graybeard58

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Church bells rang. Whistles at fire stations and mill factories sounded. People poured into the streets, waving flags and honking car horns.

It was Aug. 14, 1945 -- the day Americans learned that the Japanese had surrendered, ending the costliest conflict in human history.

"It was pandemonium with happiness," remembered John Lucas, a World War II veteran and executive secretary of the Pawtucket Veterans Council.

Rhode Island will mark the end of World War II on Monday. It is the last state to continue celebrating Victory Day, established by President Harry Truman in a 1946 proclamation.

The holiday is commonly referred to as Victory over Japan Day, or V-J Day, because of its association with the Japanese surrender. Critics say it's discriminatory, and would like to eliminate the holiday or at least remove any reference to the victory over Japan.

They point out that Rhode Islanders do not celebrate the U.S. victory over Germany, which was defeated three months earlier. Some also say the holiday is anachronistic, since Japan became a U.S. ally after the war.

"This is a stigma against the Japanese whom we do business with and are allies," said George Lima, a former state representative who worked on a failed attempt to eliminate the holiday in the 1980s.

But veterans groups remain committed to the holiday.

"This is the way the veterans feel about it in Rhode Island," said George Panichas, a former state representative who was a gunner on a B-17 bomber during World War II. "They fought against the Japanese, and they just don't forget it."

There have been several unsuccessful attempts to change the holiday's name after the failed attempt to eliminate it. Each time, lawmakers met overwhelming opposition, said Sen. Rhoda Perry, D-Providence. She introduced bills in 1992, 1994 and 1995 to change the holiday to Rhode Island Veterans Day. A second 1995 bill would have changed the name to Peace and Remembrance Day.

Perry said her bills died because veteran groups turned up in force at the Statehouse to rally against them. She received mail from veterans that she described as "vitriolic."

People need the holiday to remember the sacrifices veterans made during the war, said James Brennan. He survived the 1942 Bataan Death March in which Japanese soldiers tortured and killed thousands of American and Filipino prisoners of war.

But Brennan said he does not harbor ill feelings toward the Japanese and the holiday does not incite racism or hatred.

Mikki Lima, a Japanese-American who runs the Rhode Island Japan Society in Providence, said she is working to educate younger Americans about Japanese culture. Lima said she'd prefer if the holiday were eliminated, but if that can't happen, she hopes it can be celebrated under a new name because of Victory Day's implicit reference to the victory over Japan.

"Someday," said Lima, "this foolish holiday's name will be changed."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Japan; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: anniversary; japaneseamericans; vjday; wwii
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1 posted on 08/12/2006 4:01:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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hopes it can be celebrated under a new name because of Victory Day's implicit reference to the victory over Japan.

Had there been no "victory over Japan" There would be no need for a holiday, we would all be bowing before the emperor.

2 posted on 08/12/2006 4:04:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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This is so wrong. There should be no winners or losers in this day and age. It's not good for the self esteem of other countries since only one can win. It would be much better if we called this CVJ (co-victory with Japan)


3 posted on 08/12/2006 4:07:10 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Graybeard58

The pinheads in Japan "commemorate" the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki every year. They need to stop their sissified whining. They can have their "holidays" and we'll have ours.


4 posted on 08/12/2006 4:08:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Before you respond to that poll, imagine flying coach and Abdul just became your new pilot.)
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To: Graybeard58

Me thinks:

CHELSEA PHUA = AP = "Critics" = "Some"

They have to fill newsprint with something no matter how stupid.


5 posted on 08/12/2006 4:08:19 PM PDT by banker
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I am speechless!


6 posted on 08/12/2006 4:12:20 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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To: Graybeard58

There will come a day in this country when the tolerance and good graces of the rational will come to an end and the insane will be rounded up and institutionalized. For our safety, not theirs.


7 posted on 08/12/2006 4:15:21 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Had there been no "victory over Japan" There would be no need for a holiday, we would all be bowing before the emperor.

But, I'm sure the Japanese would not celebrate V-A Day... Or, would they?

?;^T

8 posted on 08/12/2006 4:15:21 PM PDT by Barnacle (WWOD? What would Oprah do?)
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What next? Will Sen. Rhoda Perry, (Democrat) try to eliminate Independence Day because it discriminates against the Brits?
9 posted on 08/12/2006 4:15:39 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Don`t go there...And If you do don`t get comfortable.)
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Looking forward to V-L Day. Victory over Liberals!


10 posted on 08/12/2006 4:18:46 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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Looking forward to V-L Day. Victory over Liberals!

And for V-MF day (for victory over muslim fanatics, and all other MF's.

11 posted on 08/12/2006 4:27:45 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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Could not have said it better myself.

One billion Muslims and if 10% want the United States destroyed and infidels killed, 100 million Muslims hate us and want all Americans dead.

Think about it.

The religion of peace. My ass.

12 posted on 08/12/2006 4:33:50 PM PDT by BIGZ
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Mikki Lima: "Someday this foolish holiday's name will be changed."

By whom, Mikkimoto? You and the whole d@&m Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy? Fat chance.

Remember the Bataan Death March victims and be d@&med, Mikkishuma.

):^(


13 posted on 08/12/2006 4:34:50 PM PDT by elcid1970
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Mikki Lima, a Japanese-American who runs the Rhode Island Japan Society in Providence, said she is working to educate younger Americans about Japanese culture. Lima said she'd prefer if the holiday were eliminated, but if that can't happen, she hopes it can be celebrated under a new name because of Victory Day's implicit reference to the victory over Japan. "Someday," said Lima, "this foolish holiday's name will be changed."

How about Nanking or Bataan death march day you damm ignorant PC B***

14 posted on 08/12/2006 4:36:24 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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I considered "Victory over Democrats" - But who wants to celebrate V-D Day?!


15 posted on 08/12/2006 4:36:44 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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CindyDawg said: This is so wrong. There should be no winners or losers in this day and age. It's not good for the self esteem of other countries since only one can win. It would be much better if we called this CVJ (co-victory with Japan)

I pray that you are being sarcastic, otherwise that it one of the dumbest statements I have ever read. Co-victory with Japan? Do you realize the thousands of Americans that were killed at the hands of the Japanese? You dishonor their sacrifice with statements like that! It's not that I'm about bashing the Japanese in this day and age, but I'll be damned if I will allow history to be re-written or diminished because we don't want to hurt someone's self-esteem. Hog wash!

Brian

16 posted on 08/12/2006 4:43:56 PM PDT by alvindsv
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To: Graybeard58

I thought the Clinton Admin already changed the name...?


17 posted on 08/12/2006 4:48:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"They can have their "holidays" and we'll have ours. "

And if they don't like that, we might have to give it to them again; if we can find enough stomach for it.

18 posted on 08/12/2006 4:51:47 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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While we are at it I guess we need to do away with the 4th of July. Can you imagine how this makes GB feel every year. I really didn't think I needed the sarcasm tag:')
19 posted on 08/12/2006 4:52:58 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Graybeard58

It IS VJ-Day, and that cannot be changed


20 posted on 08/12/2006 4:55:17 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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