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Antiwar Wackadoos Are Winning
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 11, 2006

Posted on 08/12/2006 8:22:50 AM PDT by A. Pole

WHAT DO YOU have to do to get a little peace and quiet around here? It used to be possible to adopt an antiwar platform and be left entirely alone by most mainstream Americans. Sure, you'd be sneered at by the media, ostracized by the major political parties and, from time to time, your in-laws would accuse you of living on the radical fringe.

But at least it was quiet out there on the fringe.

That's the whole point of fringes, right? They're not supposed to be too populated. The antiwar fringe used to be sort of like the frontier: nothing but virgin territory, big sky and social misfits. Yep, in those days, you could stand on the steps of the U.S. Capitol and shout, "Hey, the whole war in Iraq thing, it's a huge mistake!" And no matter how loud you were shouting, it would be a big empty space all around you as senators and representatives scurried to avoid antiwar contamination.

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Today, the antiwar fringe is starting to resemble California during the Gold Rush of 1849. When gold was discovered in 1848, California had a nonnative population of 14,000 and technically belonged to Mexico. By the end of 1849, the lure of gold had brought the nonnative population up to a boisterous 100,000 — and California had been formally absorbed into the United States.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; islam; lebanon; muslim; syria; terror; whinning
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1 posted on 08/12/2006 8:22:51 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
These columnists live in their own minds. They're heroes there.
2 posted on 08/12/2006 8:27:08 AM PDT by Vision (“I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me" Philippians 3:14)
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To: A. Pole

The antiwar crowd is accomplishing the same thing they've always accomplished. They're ending exactly zero wars and extending all wars and getting more people killed than any decisive victory ever could.


3 posted on 08/12/2006 8:27:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: A. Pole
Antiwar Wackadoos Are Winning

Oh really? See you in November.

4 posted on 08/12/2006 8:28:17 AM PDT by badpacifist (Democrats......deers caught in the headlights of terrorism.)
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To: A. Pole

First thing we do is stop calling them wackadoos... they are sympathizers, if not the enemy themselves...

President Bush, Aug 12, 2006: "I ask for your patience, cooperation, and vigilance in the coming days."


5 posted on 08/12/2006 8:32:50 AM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (i was not aborted this way...)
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To: A. Pole

I hope the LA Times has reporters covering Sen. Joe Lieberman's victory speech and Ned Lamont's concession speech in November.


6 posted on 08/12/2006 8:33:54 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: badpacifist

Very good tag line.


7 posted on 08/12/2006 8:34:48 AM PDT by fanfan (The MSM has no clothes.)
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To: A. Pole
Antiwar Wackadoos Are Winning Whinning

Now the title is correct. ;-)

8 posted on 08/12/2006 8:35:29 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: A. Pole
The Liberals are like Hebollah... While no one was watching.. They built up their Weapons (MSM propaganda, ACLU, NAACP, NOW, etc.).. They infiltrated those who sympathize with them (the Democrat party)... They deny their true agenda (socialism/Communism).
9 posted on 08/12/2006 8:39:00 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

It is time to push them out of the way. Dems are going to get us killed! Iran is just waiting for them to come to power, Dems put the mullahs in power. Carter is the original idiot!


10 posted on 08/12/2006 8:42:08 AM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY
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To: A. Pole
It used to be possible to adopt an antiwar platform and be left entirely alone by most mainstream Americans. Sure, you'd be sneered at by the media, ostracized by the major political parties and, from time to time, your in-laws would accuse you of living on the radical fringe.

Huh???!!!???

"Sneered at by the media?" What planet is this guy from? Since the early 1970s, "the media" have been incredible supporters of the "peace movement," as long as the war being fought is in the interest of the US. Interestingly enough, they don't seem to mind the US fighting wars that aren't in the national interest...

But even during dem administrations, the media has been at least mildly "anti-war." Of course, as soon as you get to a republican administration, the caterwalling of the media against the wars have been deafening!

Mark

11 posted on 08/12/2006 8:44:14 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: PROTESTBYPROXY

So true... They are Busted in more ways than one.


12 posted on 08/12/2006 8:48:22 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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What happened was just that the whole democracy thing worked just the way it's supposed to, for once. A majority of citizens oppose the war in Iraq, so they went to the polls and voted for the guy who shares their views, instead of the guy who doesn't.

Um... no. A majority of the Democrats who went to the polls voted for the guy who shares their views. That doesn't mean a majority of citizens, as a whole, agree with him.

13 posted on 08/12/2006 8:57:53 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian ("I'm not a hawk or a dove. I just don't want my country to be a pigeon." -- Henry "Scoop" Jackson)
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Opposing the war in Iraq isn't fringe anymore — it's become part of what defines ordinary Americans.

You'd think they'd wait till they wone just *one* single election, before crowing. Wouldn'tcha?

Winning a party primary. Big whoop. Dukakis won a bunch of them!

I've got my eye on this election cycle. If they win in just one single general election, I may change my opinion of them. But for now, they still are "the fringe".

Just like, and let's face it, we here on FR are 'the fringe'. Typically, a FReeper is politically active, tech-savy, educated beyond the average, and enjoys spirited debate on the issues.

All of which allows us to use this fabulous tool FR to magnify our voices to a scream.

14 posted on 08/12/2006 9:06:09 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

In the case of primary elections, a small percentage of the voters vote for the guy who shares their view


15 posted on 08/12/2006 9:08:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
Your post was right bon the mark. My question is why the antiwar fools are never held accountable? Do the ever feel any responsibility for their actions? And, it`s not like they don`t know, because, since Vietnam, our enemies have announced that their strategy was to prolong the conflict till we gave up and went home.
16 posted on 08/12/2006 9:10:55 AM PDT by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: badpacifist

I, for one, eagerly look forward to November when the anti-war whackos will discover they are just a figment of their own imaginations.

All pacifism has ever accomplished is more deaths and longer wars.

Kumbaya does not translate well into the language of terrorists


17 posted on 08/12/2006 9:12:26 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: A. Pole
>Antiwar Wackadoos Are Winning<

Whew, for a moment there, I thought Georgia voters tossed her out.


18 posted on 08/12/2006 9:24:32 AM PDT by Darnright (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: A. Pole

The media has tried to show them as winning all along, with exaggerated numbers and distorted reporting.


19 posted on 08/12/2006 10:26:19 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Dominic Harr
Past elections were won by a small margin. What keeps Republicans in power is a strange infatuation of Democrats with "gay marriage", abortion, stem cells research, Celebration of Diversity in public schools, suppression of religion in public sphere etc etc.

The New Deal style Democrats with some traditional moral values would win one landslide after another as they used to in the past.

20 posted on 08/12/2006 6:48:39 PM PDT by A. Pole ("Gay marriage" - Karl Rove's conspiracy to defeat Democrats?)
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