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Two Men Try To Buy Multiple Cell Phones In Ithaca
wnem tv5 ^ | Aug 11, 2006 04:18 PM CDT | WNEM TV5

Posted on 08/11/2006 10:28:49 PM PDT by DannyTN

(TV5) -- While FBI agents pour into Caro another incident breaks out in Gratiot County. At approximately 11:35am August 11th police were called to the Dollar General Store in Ithaca after a" clerk in Ithaca became suspicious after two men came into the store, and became upset when they were turned down while trying to buy several disposal cell phones.

TV5's Mike Terry spoke with the clerk who called police. She said they were two "Middle Eastern" men and said they've been coming into the store weekly and buying disposable cell phones. She said the same thing was happening at the dollar general store in Alma.

You might think the clerk became suspicious because of what was going on in Caro but when we asked the clerk she said she wasn't even aware of what was going on.

The policy at their store is that they can only sell two cell phones, per person, per day. She saw the men put the phones in the trunk of the car and when she thought they were coming back in, she called 9-1-1.

We did talk to Ithaca police while there has been no crime committed-they do want to find these men, and run their names against government watch lists.


TOPICS: US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cellphones; cityofevil; ithaca; jihadicellphones; jihadinamerica; prepaidcellphones; terrorists
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To: Jameison

You know if the cell companies provided a 8-10 per month plan most of the prepaid usage that is legal would go away.

But they like their fees and taxes that aren't taxes too much to offer such plans.


101 posted on 08/11/2006 11:39:33 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: TomGuy

Thanks New York Slimes.


102 posted on 08/11/2006 11:40:12 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: RFC_Gal

You have a point there.


103 posted on 08/11/2006 11:41:35 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Born in a Rage
It seems like there is a nuke something or other in Ithaca and there is another in Princeton, NJ. They are all around us...

Is this Ahmadinejad's August surprise? An attempt to disable our nuclear reactor sites through hundreds of terror bombings. The pipsqueak is just itching to die.

List of Nuclear reactor sites nationwide

104 posted on 08/11/2006 11:45:08 PM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: Jameison

I know this has been addressed but I have to address it again due to the massive post about these cell phones detonating charges.

This is not what the concern is about. It is about the fact that they can call and make plans to conduct terrorists acts without being traced.

I am not a jenious but I am sure anyone who spend about 1 week in Radio shack could make remote anythings.

This is about communication not detonation. Now, of course they could use them for detonators but they would probably have to do at least the same amount of work as building it from scratch.

Did I say the problem is not being able to track and monitor the calls.

I could be wrong and have been once.


105 posted on 08/11/2006 11:45:33 PM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: Jameison; WFTR

I think balance is called for.

Yes, we need to be careful about giving up freedoms in the face of threats. But this is a war against a determined enemy, and until we put that enemy down, or eliminate them from our shores, a logical action is to deprive them of their weapons of choice.

That said, there may be other ways of regulating disposable phones. Maybe we encourage reengineering the phones so that they are not as useful to bombmaking. Maybe we network the phone towers so that we can turn disposables off at a moments notice to stop impending attacks.



106 posted on 08/11/2006 11:46:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: JSteff
"Heck they don't even need that to vote"

Had to give that b4 I got my cell phone though, like most people do.
Difference between voting and disposable cell phones is, with a cell phone, you are buying a service. It can be cut off at any time, and it can be monitored anytime you make a call. Trouble is for the authorities to link that call to the individual in the case of the disposables. It's something that needs to be tackled and dealt with now.
107 posted on 08/11/2006 11:46:18 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; Cindy

Good Catch, Sir john


108 posted on 08/11/2006 11:46:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: DannyTN
You know what, I am so sick and tired of these PATHETIC COWARDLY Islamofacists. Their fighters are such sissies that they have to terrorize us civilians to make a difference. They cut off innocent people's heads on TV, but are too frightened to show their own.

And then those darn Hezbullies in Lebanon are such cowards they have to use their own women and children as human shields. Don't even get me started on the girlie men in Iraq who can't wear uniforms and fight our soldiers face to face, man to man, but have to go skulking around planting roadside bombs or use their own kids to deliver bombs. Yeah, great Allah is really impressed with that!

And then it's comical when you realize that these terrorists' biggest and most powerful allies are the pinko commie liberal media. Yeah those wimps, most of whom are too scared to hold a gun!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

109 posted on 08/11/2006 11:49:29 PM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: BookaT
"I could be wrong and have been once."

I think you are wrong. Both are problems. But there are many other ways to communicate, the internet being a big and easy one.

Unless there are 1000 sleeper agents here, then you don't need 1000 phones. It's more likely that if they are for terrorist purposes, it's for bombs not communications.

110 posted on 08/11/2006 11:49:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: A message
The pipsqueak is just itching to die.

I'm sure he has seen Helen Thomas and just cannot wait until he finally gets his 72 'virsions' of her.

111 posted on 08/11/2006 11:50:30 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: DannyTN
"You'll probably catch them in production or in storage"

The Israeli's also did that. They have blown up several bombs at terrorists' houses or storage locations. From what I recall they actually have a truck that rides around and can send out all types of signals on varying frequencies.

That is part of why the Pali terrorists started going to suicide bombers so frequently during the intifada.
112 posted on 08/11/2006 11:51:53 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: DannyTN

I still think this is about communications.

Echelon being on reason the internet is not such a good idea for plotting anything.

If you had 1000 cell phones you could make 1000 calls or recieve 1000 calls from different numbers and getting your orders.

It is not always about the outgoing calls.

Ok I would say that you could use it for detonators, but you need some more stuff to make it work, i.e. boosters, explosives.

Ok you are right I am wrong.lol

Have a good night/morning


113 posted on 08/11/2006 11:55:28 PM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: WFTR; Jameison

Exactly.

It's like now in many cities people have to have bars on their windows (IOW, make their homes into jails) to protect themselves against thieves, murderers and rapists who roam the streets.

How about curtailing the freedom of the criminals instead?

More executions are needed so law abiding citizens don't have to cower in fear.


114 posted on 08/11/2006 11:56:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: BamaGirl
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

I agree they are too cowardly to face our soldiers in the field.

It makes me angry.

115 posted on 08/12/2006 12:01:54 AM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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Looking for Map of Cell Phone Purchases
self | August 11, 2006 | madison10

Posted on 08/11/2006 3:01:13 PM PDT by madison10

Has any one made a map, or done any tracking, of cities/towns the cell phones are being purchased? or of where the suspects are being picked up?

Thanks.


116 posted on 08/12/2006 12:03:35 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: DannyTN
I think you are on to something.

Set up an autodialer to call all the disposable phones. Repeat on the phones off net or which give no answer.

Only problem is, they could wait to put the batteries back in until the bomb is emplaced and DHS could end up doing the detonating for them.

These are Li-ion batteries, and they are removing them from new phones and discarding the chargers. Stop and think, now.

If the phones are new, the batteries are likely NOT charged. The easiest way to charge them is in the phone.

SO it makes no sense to take them out.

I think they are after the phones for the batteries for CHEMICALS.

These have to be, pound for pound, the cheapest lithium batteries around--at least ones which do not immediately raise a flag.

From Wikpedia:

Safety issues and regulation

Rapid-discharge issues

Lithium batteries can provide extremely high currents and can discharge very rapidly when short-circuited. Although this is useful in applications where high currents are required, a too-rapid discharge of a lithium battery can results in overheating of the battery, rupture, and even explosion. Lithium-thionyl chloride batteries are particularly capable of this type of discharge.

Consumer batteries usually incorporate overcurrent or thermal protection or vents in order to prevent explosion.

Because of the above risks, shipping and carriage of lithium batteries is restricted in some situations, particularly transport of lithium batteries by air.

[edit] Lithium batteries and methamphetamine labs Unused lithium batteries provide a convenient source of lithium metal for use as a reducing agent in illegal methamphetamine labs. >Some jurisdictions restrict or limit the sale of lithum batteries in an attempt to help curb the creation of illegal meth labs.

However, the heavy demand for lithium batteries for use in modern, current-hungry devices such as digital cameras conflicts with such restrictions, and they remain controversial.

For example, in Wal-Mart stores the limit of sale is four packages of lithium batteries (three in Missouri). [8] Rechargeable Ni-MH batteries are overtaking the disposable lithium batteries since they are more economical.

117 posted on 08/12/2006 12:07:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: DannyTN

WHAT THE HELL ARE MUSLIMS DOING IN AMERICA???


118 posted on 08/12/2006 12:08:27 AM PDT by Dallas59 (WHAT THE HELL ARE MUSLIMS DOING IN AMERICA???)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Do you think all these Muslims are into meth manufacturing, then?


119 posted on 08/12/2006 12:12:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Smokin' Joe

Or can they use the lithium to make explosives?


120 posted on 08/12/2006 12:13:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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