Posted on 08/11/2006 7:26:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Descriptions of the alleged plot uncovered by British authorities have distinct echoes of the so-called Operation Bojinka, an attempt by supporters of al Qaeda in the mid-1990s to simultaneously destroy airliners over the Pacific using liquid explosives.
The explosives, which can be hidden in a small bottle, like those used for contact lens solution, are hard to detect, and were originally developed by Yousef, whose uncle, Mohammed, was the chief architect of the 9/11 attacks.
In December 1994, Yousef tested his device using a fraction of the explosives planned for the main bombs. Halfway through the short flight, Yousef disappeared into the toilet, took off his shoes and assembled his bomb.
Haruki Ikegami, a 24-year-old Japanese businessman returning home from Cebu, took Yousef's former seat. Two hours later the tiny device exploded, nearly tearing Ikegami in two, killing him and injuring five others. The blast blew a hole in the floor and severed the cables that controlled the plane's flaps.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
When was this? Any link?
Loose lips sink ships, and unconditional surrender would help.
Must of been the Iraq war that made the terrorists try that. /sarc
Does the accumulation of four years without further terrorist attacks make you feel safer when you fly? It shouldn't. The Bureaucratic Bunglers are out in full force and with them in charge you don't have a prayer. Or rather, all you do have is prayer.
According to Annie Jacobsen, we'd better do our homework on this one because there is no one watching out for us. Back in April,Gates of Vienna posted on Ms. Jacobsen's tenacity and her willingness to follow this story wherever it led. That post, "Silence of the Sheep," proved that the author is a sheepdog indeed. Her interviews with other passengers, with government agencies, with the House Judiciary Committee, with airline personnel, and with individual people who bear the day-to-day hazard of working in this field, have made her case. The tale of her experiences is documented well in "Terror in the Skies".
This is a top-down problem. The guys in harm's way - the pilots and flight attendants - know the problems but they have no more power to address them than you do. Less than two percent of pilots are armed. Want to know why? Because in order to actually carry a firearm on board, the firearms training must be done on the pilot's own time and it has to be done in a place far from home, squeezed into his holiday time or vacation.
And flight attendants? Again, they have to arrange self-defense training on their own time, at their own expense and without the cooperation of the airlines themselves. Think of it this way: what if Brink's hired drivers and gave them no training in handling attempted robberies? What if they expected their employees to get training - if any - on their own time and their own dime? How long do you think Brink's would be in business?
That's the situation we have in the friendly skies of America. When you add to that the cruel joke of the Federal Air Marshals, the lackadaisical behavior of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the farce we all know as the Department of Homeland Insecurity, it's enough to make you want to stay home and do your business by long-distance and email.
Let's take just one: FAMS. This is bureaucratese for the Federal Air Marshal program. You know the old joke that goes "you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny"? Well, for this program, the first part may or may not be the case, but for the second premise - being dressed funny - you can count on FAMS. Due to the boneheaded policies of those in charge, Federal Air Marshals are required to wear sport coats and collared shirts. Yes, that's right: they must look like Federal Air Marshals at all times because they are a reflection of FAMS and dressing in a slovenly disguise would somehow bring disgrace to the organization. Comments about being a lovely corpse would be appropriate here.
Then there's what they do after they're up and dressed. Remember, they're carrying guns, right? So obviously they can't go through security. However, there's a second obvious thing they can do - they can fight the current and walk through the exit lanes for deplaning passengers. How's that for subterfuge?
Let's see, what other behaviors might they carry out to make themselves more obvious? Pre-boarding is one trick they have down well. So is always riding in first class.
And there you have the FAMS spotter information: check out the guys in first class in the sports coats who got on the plane before you. But don't worry. Any terrorists on board sussed to their tricks a long time ago. They know exactly who they have to take out first, provided that any "taking out" is even necessary. If you're going to detonate in the restroom, what do you care where the Federal Marshals are? They're coming with you anyway.
Annie Jacobsen makes a good case for the fact that her flight, 327 on Northwest Airlines, was a "probe," a dry run practice. And she backs up her contention with:
* eyewitnesses who were on the plane with her,
*a four hour FBI interrogation in which they admitted her intuition was correct,
* contact from other passengers on other planes who decry the lack of security and the lack of follow-up in their cases, and
* communications from frustrated and fearful pilots, flight attendants, and others in the business who know the skies are anything but safe, that they are being probed all the time, and that it is only a matter of time before planes fall from the sky.
Near the end of the book Ms. Jacobsen recounts a conversation with an air marshal. She asked him to explain what he meant when he said "it was all for show." Here' what he told her:
"You know how youd go to the airport, before 9/11, and an agent there, somebody who worked for the airlines would say to you, 'Did you pack your own bags?' Well, it was all for show. Those agents weren't trained in detecting whether or not someone was lying. The procedure was there to make the flying public feel good. That's what happened with 327. They all came running like in the movies, but it was all for show. Who interviewed the men? FAMS. We're not trained in interviewing terror suspects. We don't know what to look for. And the FBI at the airport? I won't go there. Who really should have been there? ICE. Period. ICE. But they weren't. Why? Because management says probes aren't happening on airplanes. The guys were there to make the passengers feet good, nothing more, nothing less. Two years ago, I had a probing incident. It may have been one of the first. After it happened, no one knew what to do, there was no protocol. The guys involved in the incident sailed off into the crowd. What was I going to do? Run up, tap the guy on the shoulder and say, 'I almost shot you, now I'd like to interview you?'
Instead, I filed a report about my probing incident. Basically I was told 'it didn't happen.' Well, it did happen. Probes have been happening ever since. I doubt anybody ever even remotely considered you'd attract the kind of press you did. But you did. That's a good thing."
Now you know. Annie Jacobsen's intuitions about Flight 327 were correct. But you know even more: the official response to 9/11 is all for show - boondoggle and brouhaha and folderol and CYA.
Perhaps we should fly the friendly skies of El Al. They know security; they take it in with their mothers' milk.
You tell me - why would a word that exists in Arabic need to come from anywhere else?
To play "pin the tail on Bosnia", of course.
Sorry, nothing at Amazon gave a good summary of her great book.
The funny thing was that when she (and about a million people on the plane) reported it to the FBI, it was like they kept TELLING her what HER story was, only it was all changed around.
It was like they weren't ASKING her what happened up there, but TELLING her what she should instead THINK about the events.
And she was just flabberghasted and extremely suspicious.
And then they started telling folks she was NUTS.
maybe Annie Jacobsen wasn't as nuts as the Feds made her out to be....
So missile, or bomb? No one really knows.
My feeling is it was a missile, since trawlers hired by the FBI to trawl in the combat flight radius described by most MANPADS missiles did find an MANPADS ejector can on the floor of NY harbor.
Oh, and the 100-or so EYEWITNESSES (including an experienced military HELO PILOT...!
I don't see where an explosives expert would be much of an expert if they only tested for nitrates.
My inclination has always been that someone on the ground crew planted an incindiary in or on the tank.
To sum it up, people were praying, basically kissing their a$$es goodbye, the larger dudes onboard were fully in conspiratorial, "let's roll" mode, chicks were crying...
Can you imagine?
And partly due to PC considerations, and the fact that the caught dudes hadn't technically DONE anything (other than the small infraction of travelling on FALSE PASSPORTS), they just
LET THEM FRIGGIN GO.
And flight attendants? Again, they have to arrange self-defense training on their own time, at their own expense and without the cooperation of the airlines themselves. Think of it this way: what if Brink's hired drivers and gave them no training in handling attempted robberies? What if they expected their employees to get training - if any - on their own time and their own dime? How long do you think Brink's would be in business?
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Pilots are supposed to fly an airplanes. Stewards are supposed to serve the customers. Think of it this way. Many Americans out of concern for personal safety study martial arts at their own expense on their own time. Think of it this way Anne, try asking your boss to pay for your training. If he doesn't die laughing, he may kick you out the door. What a ditz Anne Jacobsen.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw 1994. Another bubba clintoon debacle. yet the clintoons want the voting public to put them both back in office. Good God! I pray that the American public won't.
Terror in the Skys Series by Annie Jacobsen
http://www.womenswallstreet.com/series/series.aspx?cid=9
You are referring to the article she wrote, that she turned into a series by adding articles about other strange happenings.
The pilots couldn't get the training at the local range, or whatever. It had to be specially licensed for PILOTS.
In all of the US, there was like ONE training center, in the middle of the USA, and it was far, far, from any airport.
It was totally nuts, from what I read about the program. And it was expensive as hell, too.
Basically the Bush admin didn't really even WANT pilots (or a good number of them) to actually be carrying.
Are...you ..kidding..me?
I think Mineta's hand was in that.
Mineta also issued orders to screeners to not single out Arabs at airports about two days after 9-11.
I think Mineta's hand was in that.
Mineta also issued orders to screeners to not single out Arabs at airports about two days after 9-11.
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