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Are you ready for some football?(Florida Judge Blocks Terror Preventing Searches At Football Games)
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Posted on 08/11/2006 12:14:28 PM PDT by freepatriot32

Isn't it ironic that one of the things our enemies, the Islamofascists, hate about America is the very thing that enables them to operate here?

I'm talking about our openness. Our rights to privacy. The many freedoms granted us by the U.S. Constitution. And the protections and even special treatment afforded Muslim organizations in the U.S.

We're a society like no other.

Take for example last week's decision by Federal District Court Judge James Whittemore of Florida, who ruled in favor of ACLU lawyers last week that pat down searches before football games should be prohibited because they violate fans' Fourth Amendment rights. There is "no substantial, real risk," he opined, of terrorists killing people at football stadiums.

I guess he didn't hear about the University of Oklahoma student who tried to enter Sooner Stadium last fall after wiring himself to the gills with explosives. But most Americans didn't, so what's new?

The suit, originating with a Tampa civics teacher who'd obviously rather see Raymond James Stadium blown to smithereens than subject himself to a five second pat-down, could prompt many venues and the NFL to re-evaluate security policies, a seeming victory for jihadists and ACLU fans everywhere.

Meanwhile, in the Meadowlands in New Jersey, a special area has been set aside where Muslim fans can pray during a game. This came in response to allegations of profiling after some startled Giants fans last September grew alarmed when five Muslim men were observed getting up in the middle of the first quarter, congregating in a sensitive area near the stadium's main food prep area and air intake duct, spreading prayer rugs and doing their thing. The men were outraged at being questioned.

Thankfully, the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority is making sure they'll pray in comfort this season. Who wants to be accused of profiling, especially since there's no threat to stadiums and we're not at war with Muslims (just certain Muslims who we can't identify until they decide to hijack a plane or shoot up a Jewish Federation building).

If I'm sounding a little frustrated, it's because so many Americans seem to be stuck on moot points regarding those who want to attack us. Instead of focusing on immediate concerns, while world events truly leave them and their arguments behind, they're stuck on WMD and Guantanamo detainees.

These deniers rarely have solutions to any threat, and can't see this conflict for what it really is. Hint: It's not Vietnam.

I wish they'd put the mullahs under a microscope, for once, and discuss their vow to activate terror cells here, or the "apocalyptic surprise" they claim to have in store for America on August 22.

It's been five years since the Islamofascists won their last battle on American soil, and most of us still aren't at war.

Maybe the deniers think all we need is a little football, and the enemy will simply go away.

lbarmstrong3378@comcast.net


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To: freepatriot32

They have metal detectors at government schools don't they? and court houses?


21 posted on 08/11/2006 12:40:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: All

If I were a terrorist, finding my next targets would be a no brainer.

I would study court rulings, such as these, to determine where are the easiest places for me to smuggle in whatever weapon or bomb I wanted


22 posted on 08/11/2006 12:41:56 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: driftdiver
"Ok please explain how you would hide a belt of explosives in this."

OK it might not be a belt, but I could hide some type of explosive or warhead in there. I even know how to disguise the fuse and at the same time reduce the risk of a body cavity search. Have I said too much?
23 posted on 08/11/2006 12:42:46 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: freepatriot32
Meanwhile, in the Meadowlands in New Jersey, a special area has been set aside where Muslim fans can pray during a game.

Isn't that called "home?"

24 posted on 08/11/2006 12:44:50 PM PDT by mhking ("Lotion -- apply directly to your skin; Lotion -- apply directly to your skin...")
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To: Cagey
That's okay. Everyone knows that if a terrorist strikes at an NFL game it will be from the Goodyear Blimp and not a fan in seat H347.

You think they saw that movie?

My money is on Enrico Palazzo....

25 posted on 08/11/2006 12:45:31 PM PDT by mhking ("Lotion -- apply directly to your skin; Lotion -- apply directly to your skin...")
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To: Theophilus
personally don't like living in a world where I am perpetually a suspect. If that's the way we have to be, then the terrorists Islamofacists and other totalitarians have already won. Bravo to the judge who is courageously taking the risk on himself because you can't pat down everybody, all the time, anyway.

That is my feeling as well. One cannot have a free society based on "what if" scenarios.

26 posted on 08/11/2006 12:47:55 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: b4its2late

Agreed.


27 posted on 08/11/2006 12:48:25 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Madeleine Ward
IMHO, the only good way to keep Americans safe is to bomb each and every one of the terrorists back to the stoneage.

Regardless of how many of our freedoms we sacrifice they will still find a way as long as they are alive.
28 posted on 08/11/2006 12:49:06 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: GeronL
They have metal detectors at government schools don't they? and court houses?

And Federal Buildings, and the government buildings in Washington. And what about airports...the Tampa Airport is "owned" and operated by the county Aviation Authority, but searches go on there.

29 posted on 08/11/2006 12:49:07 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: driftdiver

"Ok please explain how you would hide a belt of explosives in this."

She could be a fembot...


30 posted on 08/11/2006 12:49:13 PM PDT by rock_lobsta (cair = hamas = iran = EVIL)
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To: mhking

Mine is on Reggie Jackson.


31 posted on 08/11/2006 12:49:36 PM PDT by rintense
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To: freepatriot32

Yeah....those pesky Constitutional rights keep getting in the way!!!


32 posted on 08/11/2006 12:50:43 PM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: freepatriot32
I wonder if his logic had something to do with the stadium being state property - I think I remember a Six Flags case upholding the right of a private property owner to require searches as a condition of entry.

That said, football just wouldn't be the same without frats and alums getting their flasks in.
33 posted on 08/11/2006 12:53:17 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: rock_lobsta

'She could be a fembot."

Yea baabeee!!!

I am so glad its football season again. Next is Hockey!


34 posted on 08/11/2006 12:54:13 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: dawn53

Hey, if the name of the game is making money then they are simply doing what they are supposed to be doing.

This business of home brewed bombs is disturbing though...


35 posted on 08/11/2006 12:54:36 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: freepatriot32
Contrast this ruling with that of Judge Berman concerning the NYC Subway searches. Granted it is random search versus pat down, but the key difference is that the judge acknowledged that there is a such thing as a tasty target. Not having read this Tampa ruling, I'm not sure whether random searches would be allowed, but OK, let the sports fan beware. Quite frankly, if the terrorists mess with the NFL season, they seal their doom. Then again, isn't that what the Iran kook wants?
36 posted on 08/11/2006 12:54:51 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher - the anti-Crist [FL Governor, 2006 primary])
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To: freepatriot32

I wonder if the news media or CAIR are going to send a bunch of suspicious-acting Moose Limbs into footballs stadiums this season and then film everybody's responses?


37 posted on 08/11/2006 12:58:40 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Theophilus
I personally don't like living in a world where I am perpetually a suspect. If that's the way we have to be, then the terrorists Islamofacists and other totalitarians have already won. Bravo to the judge who is courageously taking the risk on himself because you can't pat down everybody, all the time, anyway.

I know that we are in the minority, but I agree. These evil b*#! do not win when they kill us; they win when they take our way of life from us. Our freedom, our unity, our peace of mind. If we are doomed to live in a world of perpetual terror like sheep whose every move is and behavior is scrutinized by goverment then we have surrendered to them; bowed right down and said, "You win muzzie...". Freedom is not free, it is paid for in blood. How soon we forget this. As a soldier, I don't forget this... and as a Christian, I'm not afraid...

38 posted on 08/11/2006 1:01:59 PM PDT by LambSlave (If you have to ask permission it's not a right...)
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To: Sterm26

For the record, in Philly

What about batteries? Philly fans bad, bad!


39 posted on 08/11/2006 1:08:12 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: driftdiver

"Regardless of how many of our freedoms we sacrifice they will still find a way as long as they are alive."

I wish more people could see that.


40 posted on 08/11/2006 1:23:44 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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