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LATimes: Muslims Upset by Bush's Remarks
Los Angeles Times ^

Posted on 08/11/2006 5:21:58 AM PDT by quesney

President Bush was widely criticized by Muslim leaders Thursday for saying that the breakup of an alleged plot to blow up airliners over the Atlantic Ocean was a triumph in the "war against Islamic fascists."

Muslims, already resentful of the scrutiny they have been under since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, said the politically charged phrase unfairly connected one of the world's great religions with Nazism and totalitarianism --- and fueled hostility against Islam and Muslims in America.

They said it also contradicted Bush's earlier statements that Islam was a religion of peace.

"There's nothing Islamic about fascism," said Edina Lekovic, communications director for the Muslim Public Affairs Council in Los Angeles.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
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To: quesney

If American Muslims spent half the time denouncing and working against the terror generated by their precious religion as they do whining about their bottomless pit of grievances, they might generate some sympathy. But every complaint from these emotional babies merely adds to the public's deteriorating view of them and their religion.


81 posted on 08/11/2006 6:01:08 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Colorado: the original Red State.)
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To: quesney
"There's nothing Islamic about fascism," said Edina Lekovic, communications director for the Muslim Public Affairs Council in Los Angeles.

That is not the point, Ms. Lekovic. The point is, and it is undeniable, that fascists have overtaken your religion and now their voices rule the day. The only time we hear a peep out of people like you, Ms. Lokovic, is when a spade has been called a spade.

82 posted on 08/11/2006 6:01:43 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: quesney

Well BOO-FRICKIN-HOO, Mr. CAIR spokesman.

Here's a newsflash to the entire Moslem world - YOU HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH YOUR RELIGION.

You see, it seems that members of your religion are going around blowing things up, crashing airliners, beheading prisoners and doing it all in the name of Allah.

Allah, you remember him don't you? He is the god that ALL MUSLIMS worship.

Islam, you have a problem that YOU need to fix. If you don't, we'll fix it for you.


83 posted on 08/11/2006 6:06:00 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: quesney
Not Every Muslim is a TERRORIST, but every TERRORIST is a Muslim!

The world would be much more peaceful if not for Islamofacist Terrorist!

Muslims worldwide need reign in these rabid lunatic fanatics!! ...but I don't think they want to!

-Very Big Problem-

84 posted on 08/11/2006 6:06:04 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: bboop
Muslims resentful? Say it isn't so.

I'm resentful for their religious leaders' lack of condemnation of terrorist activities. Now that we have the proper vocab in place and being used by the President, all we need is to round them all up and ship them back to their homeland and tell them to leave us the he** alone.

85 posted on 08/11/2006 6:06:13 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: quesney

Moderate Muslims need to EARN the right to be outraged - by venting their outrage on the jihadists in their midst.

Until Muslims lead the fight against jihadists, they won't have the moral authority to complain. IMHO.


86 posted on 08/11/2006 6:08:27 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: Steel Wolf
It's the same thing as making a distinction between 'average Christians' and 'Spanish Inquisitors'.

With ignorance like this, it's no wonder islam need never admit their dysfunction.
Historically, islam has killed more people in one month (repeatedly) than the entire history of the Spanish Inquisition.

And continue doing so.
Today. In the 21st Century.

87 posted on 08/11/2006 6:08:52 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Steel Wolf
"There's nothing Islamic about fascism," said Edina Lekovic, communications director for the Muslim Public Affairs Council in Los Angeles.

That makes sense only if you ignore 1400 years of mass murder, conquest by the sword, slavery, cultural extinction and genocide.

88 posted on 08/11/2006 6:09:35 AM PDT by Noumenon (Liberals: America's domestic enemies. Treat them as such.)
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To: CheneyChick

Another article I read said CAIR was calling for increased security at mosques due to GWB's remarks.

Right...as though Christians are running around attacking Muslims.

When the Muslims take the lead in purging the jihadists, they can complain. Until then, all they have is shame.


89 posted on 08/11/2006 6:11:27 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: BadAndy

I don't want to pick nits either, but you are quite wrong to consider Islam a religion. It is nothing like a religion in the way westerners think about religion. Islam is much more like the political movement that you want to distinguish it from. And, the characteristics of Islam fit the definition of facism to a tee. There is a definition of facism in this thread that you ought to check out.

Not only that, but hthere are historical ties of significant degree between Islam and German Naziism.

You really ought to read through this thread - and closely. It would have paid you to do so before making your post, which you obviously made from the hip.


90 posted on 08/11/2006 6:12:00 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: quesney
It's simple: People need to realize this is a "spiritual" war. It doesn't end conventionally. This war is not a war over some piece of dirt, or to conquer an army, it's all about "Islamic Fascist" wanting the subjugation of hearts, minds and souls.

The DBM/Dems are either absolutely clueless about what is happening here, or wilfully too stupid to realize the stakes.

Thank God in heaven Bush and the repubs are in power, we better do EVERYTHING legally possible we can to keep the repubs in power this next election!

91 posted on 08/11/2006 6:13:01 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: quesney

My eleven year old daughter reacts the same way when I catch her doing something she shouldn't.


92 posted on 08/11/2006 6:13:18 AM PDT by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: quesney
As one who was traveling yesterday, my stance is hardening even further on what needs to be done to eradicate this problem. It's not a pretty option, but it's going to become necessary. We need to enter WWII level of warfare now to prevent the enemy within our borders, and to eliminate (yes, eliminate) the problem abroad.
93 posted on 08/11/2006 6:14:01 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: goldstategop
"...Now, they may have borrowed Western technology but one is struck by the absence of original thinking and inventions in that part of the world..."

Good point. It also means they are relegated to using that technology in less than inventive ways. Take missiles for instance, they just fill them with HI EX and kill people. We use missiles to put INTEL Sats in space to help us in finding and killing them.

94 posted on 08/11/2006 6:14:26 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: Smokin' Joe
If the 'moderate' Muslims wish to change the image of Islam, then they need to root out the terrorist elements of Islam and destroy them. Nothing short of that will change MY mind.

I think "moderate Muslim" is an oxymoron. But, if they do exist, they have done a pi$$ poor job of policing their own. I agree - if they aren't with us, they're against us and since they have such contempt for our Western culture and way of life - they should be only too happy to go back to the hell hole they came from.

96 posted on 08/11/2006 6:19:54 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys / Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Swing and a miss, yet again. What is that, strike fifteen? I want vociferous, public, garment-rending condemnations from peace-loving Muslims. It's very very hard not to discriminate against a people who collectively look the other way when their brethren plot such wickedness in the name of their religion. Very hard. (Sigh).

You nailed it. No condemnation about the scum that would have killed possibly thousands of American citizens. No acknowledgment that the perps were in FACT mu-slimes.

Instead, they throw mud at the President to divert attention from the TRUTH.

"we are a religion of peace! we are a religion of peace! we are a religion of peace! we are a religion of peace! we are a religion of peace! we are a religion of peace!...

No matter how many times I hear it, actions still speak louder than words. Our actions should reflect the facts and we should all scream BULLSH!T every time someone says "it's a r.o.p." until everyone equates the phrase with bovine excrement.
97 posted on 08/11/2006 6:20:33 AM PDT by four more in O 4 (God Bless America. Let Freedom Reign.)
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To: BigDonut
Check the NY Times, this past week for an article about Muslim Iraqi war vets from Brooklyn most of them Marines and one with a Purple Heart. Do they have a problem too

Clearly these vets have shown that they value our country and the liberties it affords its citizens. They are not the problem. The problem lies with the terrorists and those by their actions (or inactions) support them. THEY are who we now speaking against. Holding their lazy, good-for-nothing feet to the fire.

98 posted on 08/11/2006 6:21:56 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys / Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims)
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To: quesney

Nothing like diverting attention from the real issue to one of insignificance. The MSM/DBM strikes again.


99 posted on 08/11/2006 6:24:35 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: quesney

The problem with Islam, unlike Judaism and Christianity, there is no soul-searching, self-assessment and introspection.

One thing you will never, EVER hear from them are questions like, "We have to ask ourselves what we Muslims have done to make Americans hate us so much."


100 posted on 08/11/2006 6:24:40 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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