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To: Cinnamon
what really puzzles me is how and why woman go for this sh|#
It is all so repressive to woman , and all the martyrdom business seems to be a total and direct contradiction to anything to do with motherhood. They just seem ...hmmmm....
other than human ?
9 posted on 08/11/2006 1:56:14 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
what really puzzles me is how and why woman go for this sh|# It is all so repressive to woman , and all the martyrdom business seems to be a total and direct contradiction to anything to do with motherhood.

Some men absolutely hate themselves and curse their lives.

Some women feel the same way.

They are candidates for conversion, because then they get to despise all Humanity.

17 posted on 08/11/2006 4:16:17 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: LeoWindhorse

Islam is a cult. People go into it because they are confused, looking for direction, and want something to take over their lives and tell them what to do, every little thing down to what hand to wipe themselves with. Just as women who are lost soul/seeker types will do things like convert to the Heaven's Gate cult in LA (remember that one?) and dutifully kill themselves on command, so they will join a cult that tells them they're garbage and puts every detail of their lives under the control of someone else.

It's amazing the lengths people will go to to get rid of the burden of freedom, which makes them confront their lives and ask themselves some serious questions about their own responsibility for their condition. A genuine religion makes one confront one's life in the context of its ethical precepts and eschatological view, and asks them to use their freedom to conform their lives to that ideal. Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc. all do this.

But Islam, which also offers itself as a political system, takes its follower, makes that person adopt strange rules that cut them off from non-cult life and friends, and tells them that nothing is up to them anymore. They have submitted (remember, Islam means submission), gotten rid of that awful burden of freedom, and will do whatever the cult demands.


23 posted on 08/11/2006 4:46:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: LeoWindhorse
It is all so repressive to woman,

What really confuses me is when black women convert to Islam. The day to day tenets treat these women at a level just above slavery. They are free...so they chose to be enslaved? Nope, don't get it

33 posted on 08/11/2006 5:34:37 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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