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8/11 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8.11.06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: Mac94

I was talking about the difference between our goals and Olmert's.


441 posted on 08/11/2006 8:27:07 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sofaman

I did check the thread and you guys had moved toward believing a UN resolution was about to occur. AP has just said Olmert is not satisfied with draft resolution and issued the go ahead for ground invasion. Thanks for advice, but I'm only reporting what AP via Fox is now saying.


442 posted on 08/11/2006 8:27:38 AM PDT by conservativepoet (I)
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To: Bahbah; Txsleuth; SE Mom

Hizbullah bombs northern Israel as Lebanese PM speaks on ”slow progress”

Posted: 11-08-2006 , 14:32 GMT

Five Israelis were wounded in Hizbullah rocket attacks on northern Israel on Friday. One person was moderately wounded when a Katyusha rocket hit an 11-story building in Kiryat Shmona. Another person was lightly hurt by shrapnel after a rocket hit a house in Kiryat Shmona. Another house in the town went up in flames after it sustained a direct rocket hit.

A Safed resident sustained light wounds as Hizbullah fired a heavy barrage of Katyusha rockets at. Rockets also landed in the occupied Golan Heights.

Earlier Friday, 15 rockets were fired at Haifa and its suburbs. After the barrage hit, the Israeli army said it had destroyed three launchers from which the rockets were fired, two of which had a width of 302 millimeters. Most of the rockets that hit Haifa in the first barrage landed in open areas, aside from one, which landed in the southern part of the city, lightly wounding two people.

In the second barrage, most of the rockets landed in open areas, except for one which hit a home in a Haifa suburb, Haaretz reported.

Meanwhile, Israeli warplanes pounded the southern suburbs of Beirut at midday firing three missiles within half an hour at the districts of Bir el Abed and Hay Madi, LBCI television said.

Loud explosions reverberated throughout the capital as U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs David Welch arrived unexpectedly to meet with PM Fuad Saniora in central Beirut. The envoy's shuttle diplomacy comes amid intense negotiations at the United Nations to introduce amendments to a U.S.-French draft Security Council Resolution to end the fighting.

"They (Saniora and Welch) were holding negotiations on the detail of the U.N. draft," a government source said. Saniora told reporters after the talks that slow progress was being made over the draft resolution. "There is progress, even if it is slow, centimeter by centimeter," he said.

Welch has also held discussions with Speaker Nabih Berri. Berri, after meeting with Welch, said "discussions are taking place over sensitive details. There is progress in some of them. However experience has taught us not believe something before it happens."

Lebanese Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh said earlier that French and U.S. proposals for the U.N. resolution are unsatisfactory because they do not provide for an immediate ceasefire to end the conflict.

http://www.albawaba.com/en/news/201791


443 posted on 08/11/2006 8:28:43 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: conservativepoet
AP VIA FOX NEWS:

OLMERT GIVING THE GO AHEAD TO LAUNCH MAJOR GROUND OFFENSIVE

let's get confirmation from another source.

444 posted on 08/11/2006 8:28:43 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: olde north church
OLMERT NOT HAPPY WITH DRAFT RESOLUTION. SENDS INFO TO MILITARY TO PREPARE FOR THE GROUND INVASION

"To Prepare for the Ground Invasion" ????? Give me a break. This sounds like just more saber rattling to me.

445 posted on 08/11/2006 8:28:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: VirginiaMom

"This going back and forth is enough to cause whiplash."

I'm looking through the yellow pages for a personal injury attorney to take this case.



446 posted on 08/11/2006 8:29:09 AM PDT by RouxStir (Refreshingly Offensive, with Hints of Cohiba and Auchentoshen.)
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To: txrangerette

Somebody kick that man in the butt. Three ways until saturday next.

And keep Livni and the other peaceniks away...or keep the military away. But not both.

He needs to do one thing or another. The people of Israel should sue him for squandering their resources on this one toe in and one toe out.


But maybe someone in the IDF or Likud or who knows where laid down the reality to him.


447 posted on 08/11/2006 8:29:31 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sofaman

Hi, sofa!

Just pray that he doesn't "think" any more today...someone needs to lock him in a closet until all of the troops get where they should have been a week ago....


448 posted on 08/11/2006 8:29:33 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: InterceptPoint
I thought they were already prepared for the invasion with more troops.

This is interesting political theatre to keep this war going.

449 posted on 08/11/2006 8:30:18 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: sofaman

Sorry, sofaman. Misunderstood your post. Good morning.


450 posted on 08/11/2006 8:30:25 AM PDT by conservativepoet (I)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Israel prepares wider ground offensive By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA, Associated Press Writer

3 minutes ago

JERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is dissatisfied with the emerging cease-fire deal and told his defense minister in a meeting Friday to get ready for a wider ground offensive in Lebanon, a senior Israeli official said.

Meanwhile, Israeli airstrikes pounded south Beirut and border crossings to Syria, killing at least 14 people across Lebanon as ground fighting picked up intensity in the south.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss the contents of the Olmert-Peretz meeting. It was not immediately clear whether the Israeli threat was meant to pressure the U.N. Security Council or whether Israel is determined to send troops deeper into Lebanon.

Jets struck twice at a busy bridge at the Abboudiyeh border crossing into Syria, killing at least 12 people and wounding 18 others, hospital and security officials said. The checkpoint is some 10 miles inland from the Mediterranean coast, on Lebanon's northern border.

Hezbollah TV reported Friday that guerrillas destroyed an Israeli gunboat off the coast of Tyre, killing or wounding the crew of 12.

The Israeli army said it was not aware of a strike on any of its vessels, which have been enforcing a blockade of the Lebanese coast since fighting began 30 days ago. Larger craft have repeatedly fired shells against Hezbollah positions and strongholds, including in south Beirut.

Israel also struck an area close to the Lebanese border crossing at Masnaa in the Bekaa Valley, about 30 miles southeast of Beirut, but there were no reports of casualties. Masnaa is the main border crossing with Syria, and has been closed after four previous strikes. It was the main escape route for hundreds of foreigners and displaced Lebanese who fled the country over land.

Only one other official border crossing, at the northern coastal town of Arida, is open.

Israeli warplanes also struck three vehicles near the eastern city of Baalbek, killing at least one person and wounding two others, security officials said. Witnesses said the vehicles were directly hit and caught fire. It was unclear whether they were cars or pickup trucks — a frequent target of Israeli raids.

A drone fired a missile at a motorbike on the southern coastal highway between Sidon and Tyre, killing its driver, security officials said. Jets also hit roads and residential areas near the southern market town of Nabatiyeh, flattening a deserted house there, they said. It was unclear if its owner, Zaino Yassin, was a Hezbollah activist, they said.

Israeli warplanes struck roads and villages in mountainous areas in the southeastern part of the Bekaa Valley as well, security officials said. No casualties were reported.

At least 20 explosions rang out across the Lebanese capital as thick black smoke rose from the southern suburbs. Hezbollah said it unleashed "a new barrage of rockets on Haifa" in response. Later the group said it fired at the Israeli towns of Kiryat Shemona, Nahariya, Avivim, Kfar Giladi, Margelot and Metulla "in response to the continuing Zionist attacks on Lebanese civilians."

Warplanes returned to the capital midday and sent missiles into Chiah, a south Beirut neighborhood where at least 41 people were killed in a strike Monday. Friday's attack came a day after Israeli jets dropped leaflets over Beirut, warning Chiah residents to leave. There were no immediate reports of casualties.

In another statement, Hezbollah said its fighters killed or wounded about 15 Israeli soldiers trying to advance toward the border village of Aita al-Shaab. "The remaining soldiers retreated under the cover of artillery shelling," the statement said. Aita al-Shaab is one of several Lebanese border towns where gunbattles have been raging for weeks between Israeli troops and Hezbollah guerrillas.

The group later said it killed four Israeli soldiers in Qantara, about 5 miles from the Israeli border. Hezbollah said its guerrillas inflicted casualties on Israeli forces in the village of Rachaf as well, some 9 miles from the border.

"The Islamic Resistance (Hezbollah) has since early morning been engaged in fierce clashes (with Israeli troops) on the southwestern outskirts of Rachaf. By 9:40 a.m., the (Israeli) enemy was trying to evacuate its casualties from the battlefield," Hezbollah said in a statement broadcast on its Al-Manar television.

Fighting also continued in Beit Yahoun, with Hezbollah saying it destroyed an Israeli tank and bulldozer, killing or wounding their crews. The town is about 7 miles from the Israeli border.

The Israeli military did not immediately comment on Hezbollah's statements.

An Associated Press reporter in the southern port city of Tyre heard a huge sonic boom over the town early Friday, likely from Israeli jet fighters breaking the sound barrier overhead.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060811/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_975


451 posted on 08/11/2006 8:30:45 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Fitzcarraldo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681866/posts

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/11/D8JEA1M01.html


452 posted on 08/11/2006 8:30:51 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: TexKat

thanks


453 posted on 08/11/2006 8:31:11 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

The real reality is:

Israel will never ever be able to depend on the UN to save their butts.

(and maybe this explains the call for speed up of munitions request)


454 posted on 08/11/2006 8:31:21 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: conservativepoet

Wow - did not see that coming, maybe that warship did get hit, maybe Olmert needs to be in a straight jacket. what i really think happened is that Olmert, being the political animal he is, realized he would be unemployed by the end of the week


455 posted on 08/11/2006 8:31:25 AM PDT by jhp
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To: Txsleuth

are the forces needed even massed in any kind of assembly area near the border? i doubt it.


456 posted on 08/11/2006 8:31:29 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: InterceptPoint

"SENDS INFO TO MILITARY TO PREPARE FOR THE GROUND INVASION"

If I was IDF, I don't think I'd even bother to strap my boots on.


457 posted on 08/11/2006 8:31:54 AM PDT by RouxStir (Refreshingly Offensive, with Hints of Cohiba and Auchentoshen.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"let's get confirmation from another source."


Working on that.


458 posted on 08/11/2006 8:32:18 AM PDT by conservativepoet (I)
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To: conservativepoet

LOL...I think you need to read Sofa's post to you again,...he was telling HIMSELF to read the thread before posting, not YOU!


459 posted on 08/11/2006 8:32:19 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: conservativepoet

Livni hinted when said not to take their coming on board for an answer.

Maybe someone finally convinced the peaceniks that the UN people would end up screwing them worse than if they kept on fighting.


460 posted on 08/11/2006 8:32:48 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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