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Men had converted to devout form of Islam, residents say [Terror plotters]
The Times (UK) ^ | August 11, 2006 | By Steve Bird

Posted on 08/10/2006 4:20:03 PM PDT by aculeus

TWO men said to have been arrested changed their appearances after converting to a devout form of Islam, according to neighbours.

One is said to be Ibrahim Savant, who became a devout Muslim about seven or eight years ago, according to a friend. He may have been a born Muslim who became more interested in his faith in later years.

Oliver Savant was a popular boy growing up in the terrace of Folkestone Road, Walthamstow. He played football and joined local soccer clubs. But around 1998, when he was a teenager, neighbours said, he began wearing Muslim white gowns and grew a long beard.

It was then that Mr Savant, who has a brother, Adam, was understood to have changed his name to Ibrahim, neighbours said. According to the electoral register, a number of males named Savant occupy the home along with a woman called Marilyn Moseley. The family live in one of six 1960s terraced houses at the end of a street of Victorian homes. A number of mosques are in the area and a madrassa, an Islamic school, is run near by.

Paul Kleinman, 66, a retired fireman, said that the family moved into the house in about 1975. “I’ve known him since the day he was born. His dad invited me in for a drink when he was born. We’ve always got on with them very well. Adam and Oliver both went to university but I think Oliver dropped out.

“All of a sudden Oliver started to put the white robes on. [snip] I think his dad’s an architect and is from Iran and his mother is an accountant. His mother’s English. He used to be a keen trumpet player and played to a high level. He’s a very nice and polite young man.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crushislam; islam; islamicnazis; islamisevil; londonairlineplot; muslim; muslims; ukmuslims
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1 posted on 08/10/2006 4:20:04 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Since when does "devout" equate to bloodthirsty?


2 posted on 08/10/2006 4:21:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: aculeus
Men had converted to devout form of Islam;
Actually Read and Followed Koran, residents say


There, that's better
3 posted on 08/10/2006 4:23:05 PM PDT by VOA
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To: BenLurkin

When talking about islam.


4 posted on 08/10/2006 4:23:05 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: BenLurkin

Since the Koran was written.


5 posted on 08/10/2006 4:23:22 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: BenLurkin

6 posted on 08/10/2006 4:24:26 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: BenLurkin

This was clearly the time after George Bush defeated Ann "Ma" Richards to become Governor of Texas and thus obviously instilled this degree of anger and hatred into this obviously devout, well-meaning muslim. (/moonbat reasoning OFF)


7 posted on 08/10/2006 4:24:26 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: aculeus

The U.S. and Great Britain should simutaneously close down EVERY MOSQUE IN THEIR COUNTRIES. They are no longer places of worship, they are training camps.


8 posted on 08/10/2006 4:25:35 PM PDT by Hildy (To save us both time, assume I know everything...)
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To: aculeus
“I’ve known him since the day he was born. His dad invited me in for
a drink
when he was born.


Pops was lucky his kid didn't get around to this:
"Dad, you're not a good Muslim. I've got to kill you!"
9 posted on 08/10/2006 4:25:39 PM PDT by VOA
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To: BenLurkin

Since "The Religion of Peace" (tm) was involved, silly. . .


10 posted on 08/10/2006 4:27:05 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: BenLurkin
Since when does "devout" equate to bloodthirsty?

Since Mohammad became an adult.

11 posted on 08/10/2006 4:28:32 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Hildy

If this is not another story to back up the idea Islam is a cult.....I don't know what is....


12 posted on 08/10/2006 4:28:43 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: aculeus
[Mr. Savant] grew a beard and made different friends. Friends and neighbours who watched him grow up were shocked over his apparent arrest.

Mr. Savant is surrounded by idiots.

13 posted on 08/10/2006 4:29:15 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: aculeus
...devout form of islam...

And there's the rub: Moderate muslims know they cannot get into heaven until they become devout muslims; i.e., until they slaughter infidels in the name of Allah.

So do we have anything to fear from moderate muslims? You betcha! We have to fear them becoming devout muslims. It's not just the radicals we must fear, but all muslims.

14 posted on 08/10/2006 4:30:58 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Hildy

Dang, Hildy. You made me add you to the list... and you're one of my least favorite FReepers.


15 posted on 08/10/2006 4:31:09 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: BenLurkin

When the ideology of death and destruction cloaks itself in the name of a religion so as to get all the benefits of a religion in a tolerant society.
I say the USA must stop being so tolerant, and expel them!


16 posted on 08/10/2006 4:31:11 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness +death. That why they like islamofascists.)
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To: aculeus

How the hell do do the muslims get in peoples head like this

You can see some kid brainwashed since he was a baby but how do they appeal to teens adults etc who from all accounts come from normal backgrounds

What the hell is the appeal of this goofy religion


17 posted on 08/10/2006 4:38:59 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: aculeus
Do we know yet if a similar method was used to bring down Flight 800?

Maybe no terrorists admitted to blowing up the plane, because it was a trial run for this plot.

18 posted on 08/10/2006 4:44:57 PM PDT by syriacus (A vote 4 Lamont is a vote 4 the right of abusive men to kill women + children, here + abroad.)
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To: Hildy
he U.S. and Great Britain should simutaneously close down EVERY MOSQUE IN THEIR COUNTRIES. They are no longer places of worship, they are training camps.

Maybe the Muslim prayer rooms in public schools should be shut down, too.

Even if the students aren't plotting terror, the more "devout" students are surely tattling to their imams about Muslim students who are slacking off in their religious "devotions."

Public schools with Muslim prayer rooms are, essentially, enforcers for the local imams.

19 posted on 08/10/2006 4:48:24 PM PDT by syriacus (A vote 4 Lamont is a vote 4 the right of abusive men to kill women + children, here + abroad.)
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To: uncbob
You can see some kid brainwashed since he was a baby but how do they appeal to teens adults etc who from all accounts come from normal backgrounds

Look at Charles Manson, Jim Jones, and all the other cults in the past. Some people are easily sucked in.

20 posted on 08/10/2006 4:49:56 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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