Posted on 08/10/2006 1:50:29 PM PDT by PghBaldy
I didn't get the sense that he was a troll. I got the sense that he wasn't the typical Freeper, and not here necessarily because of our shared worldview, but because of an article that had particular relevance for him.
I'm a bit disappointed to see him booted, frankly. Seemed like a passionate, unpretentious young man.
There are always those who will see the humor in even a situation as bleak as this one. And there will always be those who go Church Lady on those who do.
Unfortunately, this happens at FR quite a lot. Someone will new will sign up and insist he/she knows the people in the article and yells at us for jumping to conclusions.
For some reason they always seem to have problems with spelling and/or punctuation.
I've seen it many times.
About a year ago I posted a vanity about a propane distributership near my home, it was on fire and tanks were exploding. No news source yet because it was just then happening.
Then someone came to the thread and confirmed that it was happening and where it was happening, eventually I and the entire neighborhood was ordered to evacuate, but not before I was accused of making it up that I was personally involved in the situation.
The funny thing is that there are probably a dozen or more members who can vouch for where I live including JimRob.
Oh yeah, you'll get far in life.
Second woman arrested in death of baby
By Manny Gonzales
Denver Post Staff WriterA second woman has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder in the death of a newborn found dead in the back of a pickup in Strasburg, authorities said Wednesday.
Twenty-three-year-old Jennifer Lynn Teeters, who authorities described as a friend of the infant's mother, is scheduled to appear in Arapahoe County court on Monday to be advised of her charges.
The infant's mother, Christie Lee Cole, 23, also faces first-degree murder in addition to child abuse charges.
The infant was found dead last week amid trash in the back of a 1971 Chevrolet truck at the Country Gardens Mobile Home Park near Strasburg.
Cole, who authorities said gave birth to a full-term, or near-full-term, child in October, was arrested and is being held at the county jail without bail.
Mom held after man buys $100 pickup, finds baby's remainsSTRASBURG - Greg Korb bought a broken-down 1971 yellow Chevrolet pickup truck for $100 Wednesday in hopes of finding a salvageable motor.Instead, he found a dead baby in a box in the littered bed of the truck.
"Just a horrible situation," said Korb. "I can't believe someone would do this."
Investigators on Thursday arrested a 23-year-old woman, who admitted being the mother of the baby, for investigation of first-degree murder and child abuse.
The woman, Christy Lee Cole, and her boyfriend sold Korb the truck, he said.
Cole is being held without bail in the Arapahoe County jail. The boyfriend is not facing charges in the case, Sheriff Grayson Robinson said.
Cole is believed to have delivered the child full term, or near full term, in October 2005.
Robinson declined to say whether investigators believe the baby died shortly after birth or elaborate on what led them to clear the boyfriend as a suspect in the case.
Cole lived with her boyfriend and 3-year-old son in the Country Gardens Mobile Home Park, 1200 South County Road 57, according to investigators.
The three moved to the park in Strasburg in January 2005, said June Korb, who owns the mobile park with Greg Korb, her son.
Since the couple moved in, neighbors said the bed of their yellow truck was always filled with trash such as mattresses, broken sofas and garbage bags. They said the vehicle was always parked in front of the home.
Residents complained of a foul stench from the truck and how the couple never took out their trash, neighbors said. Residents are supposed to take their garbage to any of the three dumpsters located in the mobile home complex.
"There was always notices on their door about how they're supposed to take out their trash," said neighbor Marilyn Callahan. "The nearest dumpster is just less than a minute away."
After failing to pay July's rent, the couple was being evicted and were looking to make extra cash, said the park owners. Cole did not work and her boyfriend worked in lawn care, said neighbors.
Greg Korb offered to buy their broken down truck.
"They wanted to get rid of it and I wanted the parts," he said.
Korb said he met with the couple four times on Wednesday asking questions about the truck. Each time, they offered to help him dump the trash from the truck, he said.
Korb said he told them he preferred to get help from his 15-year-old son. Since the couple was selling the truck for only $100, Korb said that throwing out the trash "was the least that I could do."
The father and son towed the truck to a dumpster and began removing trash bags from its bed at about 8 p.m.
The two found one open black plastic bag that was filled with leaves. Also inside was a small box that contained the decomposed body of an infant.
Korb then called 911.
Deputies interviewed residents in the mobile home park Wednesday night as technicians took fingerprints and evidence from the truck.
Investigators took Cole in for questioning early Thursday and she admitted she was the mother of the dead baby. She was arrested at 5:30 a.m., Robinson said.
"If she (Cole) did this, she deserves to be tried for murder," said another neighbor, Amanda Callaway. "If you shake a baby to death, you're in trouble. Trouble is different from murder."
Under the state's Safe Haven Law, parents can surrender newborns to hospitals or fire stations within 72 hours without threat of prosecution or liability.
"This didn't have to happen," Robinson said.
Callahan said Cole had not told neighbors that she was expecting a baby last year and said she hadn't noticed that the young woman was pregnant.
Cole's 3-year-old son has been placed with the Arapahoe County Human Services Department.
The body of the baby was so decomposed that investigators could not determine the infant's sex, said Robinson. An autopsy has been done and investigators are awaiting results.
"You expect to hear something like this in Denver," said Callaway. "Not out here." A second woman has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder in the death of a newborn found dead in the back of a pickup in Strasburg, authorities said Wednesday.
Twenty-three-year-old Jennifer Lynn Teeters, who authorities described as a friend of the infant's mother, is scheduled to appear in Arapahoe County court on Monday to be advised of her charges.
The infant's mother, Christie Lee Cole, 23, also faces first-degree murder in addition to child abuse charges.
The infant was found dead last week amid trash in the back of a 1971 Chevrolet truck at the Country Gardens Mobile Home Park near Strasburg.
Cole, who authorities said gave birth to a full-term, or near-full-term, child in October, was arrested and is being held at the county jail without bail.
I appreciate dark humor like most on FR.....
However, there are lines that are never crossed and the death of an infant rates there.....
Until a few years ago Hollyweird wouldn't even show a child killed in any movie....they would tell about it, show the funeral....but never graphically chronicle the death...
Thing is, there are people out there who do this sort of thing to get attention. Not just here, but all over the internet. It's either a game or a mental illness. We started calling them Obligatory Insiders.
If you read enough of these supposed Insider posts, you start to notice the persistent themes behind them.
1. "You have no right to judge him/her/them." In other words, we're not to have an opinion regarding anyone's actions, let alone their character. How dare we.
2. "Get your facts straight/listen to both sides of the story/quit your day job, fly out here and find out what really happened before you say one single word about someone you don't know", followed by a disclosure of either (a) way too much personal information or (b)proclamations of various "facts" for us to get straight, which have nothing whatsoever to do with the essential events of the story.
3. "You're hurting this mass-murderer/child molester/bigamist/gay rapist/armed robber/cop killer's family's feelings with your insensitive comments. What if this was your father/mother/brother/sister/friend? How would you feel?"
For some reason, the trolls are drawn to lurid subjects, and show up on threads involving sex crimes or the deaths of children and young adults. The more heinous the crime, the more likely someone will show up to defend the guilty party, invoke the guilty party's family, and insinuate that any of us could be in the same situation (because all people are alike and we'd all do the same thing under the same circumstances; there are no bad people, only bad choices. Barf.).
4. "You're all lousy Christians." Another attempt to produce guilt and squelch discussion, which never works, but makes the anti-Christian trolls feel superior.
5. Resurrection of a completely dead thread, to demand that we "Stop talking about this person!", when everyone had already stopped talking about that person months or even years before.
6. Abysmal spelling, punctuation, and grammar, which we suspect is usually an affectation by the troll, for the purpose of sounding "authentic."
7. Same-day signup to post any of the above.
I don't call "Insider Fraud" unless a poster fulfills at least five out of the above seven. (The poster was banned before I got here, so I'm not going to bother to count them up---but let's just say he was a real contender :D)
A few examples from the Insider Hall of Fame:
It breaks my heart that there are so many ignorant people out there who believe just the one side. You truly need to hear both sides before you go casting stones against Michelle and her baby! ( Michelle drowned her baby, but no one is supposed to have an opinion about it. )
The above thread was completely taken over by various Insiders (starting with this one, and ending recently with one claiming to be the young murderess' mother). I noticed that the same thing was happening on another of Native Texun's threads, made an idle comment to that effect, and was rewarded with a batch of bizarre and angry freepmails from him. That's when I began to suspect that he was generating all the Insider posts himself.
as I stated in an earlier post,"I've seen this type poster before". I reported "Super_sami" to the mod and gave my opinion, evidently he agreed with my opinion and banned him.
I've received FReepmails from brand new posters and just copy and paste them to a memo to the mod. They are quickly banned.
Good alalysis in number 68.
So THAT'S where I put it.
I'd like it back please.
Excuse me, but why in the hell does anyone assume things about a person's moral character just because they live in a trailer? Lot's of good folks do, more good than bad. Says a lot about the moral character of those who make such remarks.
Pardon me, but is FR suddenly so PC that one cannot use the term "trailer trash"? That's all I did. You can read into that term whatever connotations about "moral character" you choose, but kindly do not ascribe them to me simply because of my use of the term.
"Jump-jiving and you post a little."
It may not matter in school, but it does in the real world. People will judge you by the way you present yourself.
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If you're telling the truth about this, then you have my sympathies.
Why didn't she just stab the baby in the head with a pair of scissors and suction the brains out? That's the safe and legal way.
Do I have to add a sarcasm tag?
That is helpful. I appreciate all the work you're doing to keep FR that much more true and accurate. I can be gullible (you know that word's not in the dictionary, right?).
:-)
I used to have a hard time believing these stories until the fat woman at work got pregnant. At eight months, she didn't look any different from normal.
Work? Shucks, I'm doing it for fun. ;D
I can be gullible (you know that word's not in the dictionary, right?).
I fell for that one about five years ago.
Ok, what do you mean when you say it? That's all I'm asking.
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