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To: kabar
"The policy you are advocating would be counterproductive and very difficult to administer. It would alienate many of our allies like Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia, etc. India is not a "Muslim country" yet it has the second largest Muslim population. It would also radicalize the 4 to 6 Muslims in the US."

This type of thinking is putting us in peril.
Pakistan is not a real ally. At best they are, on occasion, an ally of convenience when the head of the country fears the same terrorist who want to kill us also want to kill him.

Turkey is periodically an ally when they think it will help them get aid but, as we have seen by their refusal to allow troops through their country during the invasion of Iraq, their real allegiance is to their cult/religion.

Indonesia is not, and never will be,
an ally.

India can be an ally as 90% of it's citizens are non-muslims. Muslims are the enemy of India as much as they are the enemy of the U.S.

I consider any true muslim in this country i.e. those that believe in the koran, as enemies. I am an infidel to them and never can be an equal or fellow citizen. They do not believe in our form of government nor our system of justice.

I do not believe in shutting our Country to all foreigners, but I do believe we can, and should, be more selective in who we allow to enter and remain in the United States.
312 posted on 08/10/2006 7:52:44 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
This type of thinking is putting us in peril. Pakistan is not a real ally. At best they are, on occasion, an ally of convenience when the head of the country fears the same terrorist who want to kill us also want to kill him.

In the WOT, we need the Islamic Republic of Pakistan [the official name.] There are some reports that Pakistan aided in the uncovering of this most recent plot to blow up US planes. Any plan to bar all nationals from Islamic countries will hinder whatever cooperation we now receive from Pakistan. FYI: I believe that tribal areas of Pakistan are providing sanctuary to UBL and the Taliban. Also, the Balucis in Pakistan are ground zero in the WOT. Alienating the Pakistani government will not be helpful in combatting these groups.

We had the Soviet Union as an ally against Hitler. We need Pakistan in much the same way.

Turkey is periodically an ally when they think it will help them get aid but, as we have seen by their refusal to allow troops through their country during the invasion of Iraq, their real allegiance is to their cult/religion.

Turkey is a member of NATO and as such, we have existing treaty obligations with one another. We have military bases in Turkey and sell them arms. Turkey is also the third largest recipient of military aid after Israel and Egypt. They may have prevented (by a narrow margin in their parliment) the 4th ID from transiting their country and denied us use of their airspace in our invasion of Iraq, but they are still our ally. Would you advocate closing our military facilities in Turkey, banning all arms sales to them, and calling for their removal from NATO?

Indonesia is not, and never will be, an ally.

Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim country and has been an ally in the WOT. Bush has been slowly lifting the ban on military aid to Indonesia, which was banned due to human rights violations in East Timpor. The embargo on commercial sales of non-lethal defense articles has been lifted and contact between the two militaries is on the rise. For fiscal year 2006, President Bush has requested $800,000 in IMET, up from the $459,000 that Congress froze in 2004. The Congressional Budget justification for 2006 notes that "Indonesia’s contribution to the Global War on terrorism is also a vital U.S. interest."

India can be an ally as 90% of it's citizens are non-muslims. Muslims are the enemy of India as much as they are the enemy of the U.S.

13.4% of India's population or 134 million people are muslims. The President of India, A.P.J. Abdul KALAM, is a Muslim. Militant Islamic fundamentalism is the enemy of India, not muslims.

I consider any true muslim in this country i.e. those that believe in the koran, as enemies. I am an infidel to them and never can be an equal or fellow citizen. They do not believe in our form of government nor our system of justice.

There are 4 to 6 million American muslims in this country. How do you propose to deal with these "enemies?" What should be done with their Mosques and the practice of their religion?

I do not believe in shutting our Country to all foreigners, but I do believe we can, and should, be more selective in who we allow to enter and remain in the United States.

We have laws that do just that. We just need to do a better job of enforcing our existing laws and securing our borders.

It is thinking like yours that plays into the hands of our enemy, militant Islamic fundamentalism. They want to make this into a religious war rather than against their narrow radical movement, which is a fringe group that is very small in numbers.

327 posted on 08/10/2006 8:41:59 AM PDT by kabar
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