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8/10 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/10/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

An Israeli soldier avoids dust as a military helicopter prepares to land on the Israel-Lebanon border August 9, 2006 to evacuate troops injured in fighting in southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; waronmilitantislam
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Hot D@ng!

Hizbullah says no to deal that would keep IDF in Lebanon





Hizbullah announced that it would not abide by any UN Security Council decision that would not call for the withdrawal of IDF troops from Lebanon.


Lebanese media said the terror group continues to back Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora’s “Seven-Point” plan. (Roee Nahmias)


http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-4289,00.html
(08.11.06, 00:53)


781 posted on 08/10/2006 3:05:56 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thank the Lord of Heaven for stupid enemies!!!!!!!!!


782 posted on 08/10/2006 3:06:51 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

IDF wants to 'move, fight and attack'



Government will decide shortly whether to halt army operation in Lebanon, but IDF also prepared to fight. 'Army doesn't like waiting - waiting damages motivation,' head of Northern Command Chief of Staff tells Ynet
Hanan Greenberg



The IDF is tensely awaiting instructions from the political echelons, and as things looked Thursday night, it is uncertain whether forces will continue moving northward in Lebanon towards the Litani River.


Brigadier-General Alon Friedman, Chief of Staff of the IDF 's Northern Command, told Ynet, "The army doesn't like waiting. Due to the nature of things forces want to move, to fight and to attack."


According to Friedman many Hizbullah rocket-launching cells are now operating just north of the areas in which the IDF is fighting, which obligates the homefront to stay in shelters. "We don't like having them in shelters, and we want to do everything to protect them," the officer said.


The mood of waiting and uncertainty was clearly felt among reservists as well. One soldier, a reservist from an elite unit, told Ynet, "The situation is extremely difficult, it damages motivation. We were on the verge of entering, our faces painted with camouflage, all of our equipment ready and at the last minute they brought us back. This is happening all the time. We have friends in Lebanon – we should have gone in to give them backup, to fulfill our missions, but the state is hesitating. It's not healthy – it's dangerous. If they don't need us here they should send us home."


Other soldiers from the unit discussed their feelings with their commander. "We're ready to go in and carry out any mission and slay our fear, but they're stopping us anew every time. In the end this will cost in human lives," one soldier said.


Waiting for the next stage


During a press briefing in the North, Brig. Gen. Friedman said the political ranks "have not instructed us to stop the operation. At the political-chief of staff level, we were told to continue and deepen our hold on the area we've captured, where a number of terrorists are still wandering around and there are many weapons caches and rocket launchers as well. What the political ranks told us was to wait to withdraw until the next stage to allow other processes to happen and to enable a stronger hold on the territory."


Friedman added that at this stage, as long as the IDF received no orders otherwise, forces would continue operating across southern Lebanon against Hizbullah terror infrastructure. In one village raided by the IDF, troops discovered sheds loaded with weapons. Likewise forces operating in various villages from west to east continued to encounter terrorists.


According to Friedman, some of the terrorists were located in these areas since the IDF started operating there in the past weeks while others streamed to the area in the past few days. "The forces operating right now are also busy opening routes as part of a process to allow northward movement if necessary," he said.


The general further explained that if, in any case, the army was directed to expand operations, there were enough standing and reserve troops ready to fulfill the missions and there would be no need to call up additional soldiers, at least at the initial stages. The IDF recently shuffled forces from various sectors, thus enhancing the number of forces on the northern border, prepared to enter Lebanon.


Friedman noted that if the instructions were given to expand operations and eliminate rocket fire - requiring deployment as far as the Litani River - due to the nature of things, operations within the villages would be reduced and numerous forces would move northwards. He refused to disclose how many troops were currently in action, but noted that a great deal of forces would reinforce those currently fighting if such a strategy were undertaken. Regarding the length of time such an operation would take, Friedman explained that the longer the army had to 'clean' out the territory, the more effective the operation would be.


"At this stage we're continuing to carry out the missions we have, and meanwhile we'll wait and see what instructions we get. We will be prepared to execute any mission or to fulfill whatever decision the political echelons come to."


Miri Chason contributed to the report

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3289551,00.html

(08.11.06, 00:08)


783 posted on 08/10/2006 3:07:13 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

01:02 Democrats: U.K. plot proves Iraq war a diversion from the true threat of terror (Reuters)


784 posted on 08/10/2006 3:07:33 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

01:02 Democrats: U.K. plot proves Iraq war a diversion from the true threat of terror (Reuters)


785 posted on 08/10/2006 3:08:46 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

posting hiccups!


786 posted on 08/10/2006 3:09:29 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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bttt


787 posted on 08/10/2006 3:10:11 PM PDT by Godzilla (OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?)
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To: conservativepoet

I read that...thanks.

I don't blame the military for being angry.

I heard Sheppy say today that there are thousands and thousands of soldiers just milling around on the border.

I remember when we were getting ready to go into Iraq...the military "experts" on TV said that we just couldn't leave the troops in Kuwait and Turkey (until Turkey wouldn't let them in, of course)...for an indefinite amount of time.

That they would be sitting ducks...BUT, worse, they would lose the intensity it takes to stay alive.

OMG--Sean Hannity just introduced Mike Wallace so PUSH his interview with Ahmanutjob...Sean called him "a great American"...I think I am gonna puke.


788 posted on 08/10/2006 3:10:24 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth
Me too, besides I love it when he takes the New York crew to task. I miss him too but he's sort of like Rush, when on vacation it's almost guaranteed something exciting will happen.

I wish they'd get New York straightened out :o)

789 posted on 08/10/2006 3:11:29 PM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel as they fight Hell's Bullies)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

So he has the money to call home, and he obviously knows how to use a telephone, but he couldn't call the school to find out how to get to Montana?


790 posted on 08/10/2006 3:12:30 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
01:02 Democrats: U.K. plot proves Iraq war a diversion from the true threat of terror (Reuters)

Hmmmm....IMO, given the activities of Iran and Hezbollah, being in Iraq right now is 'dumb luck'.

791 posted on 08/10/2006 3:12:30 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Txsleuth

Personally I think the whole thing is a diplomatic kabuki dance just to keep everyone busy while Hizballah is being cleaned out.


792 posted on 08/10/2006 3:12:40 PM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel as they fight Hell's Bullies)
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To: Txsleuth

Have a barf bag on me....yuck. Shame on Sean. There is a time that graciousness is uncalled for!


793 posted on 08/10/2006 3:13:50 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: McGavin999
Personally I think the whole thing is a diplomatic kabuki dance just to keep everyone busy while Hizballah is being cleaned out.

I HOPE SO!

794 posted on 08/10/2006 3:14:01 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: greyfoxx39

I have NO IDEA...I don't have a clue what has happened in the last 24 hours to have people all of a sudden accuse Bush of selling out Israel...

Or not being up to the job..and a Neville Chamberlin.


795 posted on 08/10/2006 3:14:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: DCPatriot

You know it! If it comes time to do it, we're in amazingly good position.


796 posted on 08/10/2006 3:15:14 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Txsleuth

I see him more like Abraham Lincoln, myself, embattled all over the place...


797 posted on 08/10/2006 3:16:25 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

BTW...Mark Levin is absolutely beside himself...he's on fire in his opening rant.


798 posted on 08/10/2006 3:17:05 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: wildcatf4f3

The United States (Bush) has already had Bolton vote in Israel's favor once since this started...I haven't seen another ceasefire agreement up for a vote.

BTW..Don't you realize that this whole "cease-fire" thing is a semantical GAME...and Bush is a great poker player..


799 posted on 08/10/2006 3:17:19 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth

It's probably because President Bush said Israel should not escalate the war.


800 posted on 08/10/2006 3:18:51 PM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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