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Yahoo News Photo [Another fake photo? Follow-up to thread pulled minutes ago]
Yahoo ^ | 8/8/6 | Mohammed Ballas

Posted on 08/09/2006 7:52:44 AM PDT by ZGuy

A Palestinian militant fires toward Israeli troops during an arrest raid in the West Bank village of Qabatiyeh near Jenin, Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2006. Four Palestinians were wounded when the army arrested an Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militant, Palestinians sources said. The army said two Islamic Jihad militants were arrested during the operation. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fauxtography
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To: dead
It does look funny, the way the shooting guy stands out, but sometimes digital cameras create some weird looking effects.

Bingo.
The other detail that has me thinking this was real was the star shaped blast pattern of smoke created by the surpressor in front of the spectators.
Adding smoke might seem like a simple thing, but knowing about and editing that pattern is a tough sell.

My take - not PhotoChopped - but staged.

141 posted on 08/09/2006 8:41:56 AM PDT by MassExodus (If the Pen is mightier than the Sword, then PhotoShop is a Nuclear Bomb.)
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To: JamesP81
Could be.. not sure. This is the area I was thinking was the mag part.

It also looks like a shorter 20 round mag, I only say that because I do not see it extending down past the sling.

The only 2 colors of any of my AR-15 mags are that grey and black.. this one look like a grey one.

142 posted on 08/09/2006 8:42:30 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ZGuy

Let's see . . . 2,700+ views and 150+ replies in less than an hour times 3 minutes each means that this post has cost American productivity nearly 100 hours. (I'm so ashamed)


143 posted on 08/09/2006 8:42:34 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: maica

Unless the shooter were shooting through a portal or a narrow place between buildings. The fauxtographer could be using another wall for protection.

I still say its staged.


144 posted on 08/09/2006 8:43:08 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is Serendipitous)
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To: dennisw

There's a peacock-like shadow behind the two boys on the far left. Not sure if that's from a nearby tree....?


145 posted on 08/09/2006 8:43:12 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Andy from Beaverton
"Ewww!!! Who Farted???"

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that reaction. I feel more normal now. Thanks.

146 posted on 08/09/2006 8:43:30 AM PDT by Free State Four
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To: em2vn
See my post 62 where I eat crow on the issue.

My apologies then. It's hard to play thread catch up and still catch all the posts :\
147 posted on 08/09/2006 8:43:39 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: weegee

Do you guys see the shooter's left hand, holding the gun? Under it you can see the clip showing. Now above his wrist you can see the shirt of the guy behind him with his head to the side of his face. Am I wrong that the clip shouldn't be see-through? And what is the black area under the stock? Shouldn't the building behind show? Doesn't that look off?


148 posted on 08/09/2006 8:44:38 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic
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To: BigSkyFreeper

lOL!


149 posted on 08/09/2006 8:45:06 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Wall stain.... look at other discolorations on the wall


150 posted on 08/09/2006 8:45:37 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: FarRightFanatic

I'll reiterate what others have said: although this photo might be doctored and/or staged, it serves no obvious propaganda purpose, so maybe we are spending too much time on it.


151 posted on 08/09/2006 8:46:59 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: WhiteGuy
Lacking a "really good shot" creates the need for "embellished" photos which serve the purpose of conveying the "message"

All opinion pieces are likewise "purchased commodities" - like the Armstrong Williams columns.

Maybe the MSM should just create a new category called "Opinion Photos" and let the Photoshoppers do as they wish on those. ;)

152 posted on 08/09/2006 8:47:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: eXe
Could be.. not sure. This is the area I was thinking was the mag part.

That would be the right location. It appears that there's a lot of interference, if you will, from the skin tone of the shooter's arm. If the camera had been rated for higher resolution, it would be easier to tell.

It's possible a 20 rounder might still extend low enough that you might get a glimpse of it, but not sure. I'm still of the opinion that it's doctored, especially considering the location of the spent cartridge in flight, but I certainly can't prove it.
153 posted on 08/09/2006 8:47:32 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: FarRightFanatic
If you believe one part of the gun is more far forward (closer to the photographer) than another part of the gun, then you're seeing what I'm seeing.
154 posted on 08/09/2006 8:48:19 AM PDT by jdm
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To: 84rules

Say what? I think you have been watching too many war movies. You think in the heat of firing a guy is going to make sure his sling is wound right? Also, the casing sure looks to me like it has been ejected properly. I question what appears to be extra fingers below the mag area; but would accept somebody saying he looks like he is missing two fingers; probably shot off.

Bottom line is why get all worked up over this picture when there are others that are obviously doctored. Even if this picture was doctored it proves our point that these guys surround themselves by civilians. Why would they bother to doctor it as such?

sheese


155 posted on 08/09/2006 8:49:12 AM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"There is a 5th civilian directly behind the rifle stock. You are seeing the hair of a youngster."

There's actually six civilians and the shooter. There's a head of hair in between the shooter's armpit and the butt of the weapon. Who's is it? The 5th or 6th person's? And to me it looks like the head of hair is actually overlapping the butt of the weapon.

156 posted on 08/09/2006 8:50:38 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: FarRightFanatic

Don't know if it was photoshopped. Don't particularly care.

As I say, it could be staged at a firing range and accomplish the same results.

The bigger things to note are the proximity of "civilians" and the photographer who the terrorist activity.


157 posted on 08/09/2006 8:51:21 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

That's not a tee shirt, the kids got a collared shirt on, and the wrinkles in the shirt, under the gun don't match the rest of the shirt.


158 posted on 08/09/2006 8:52:06 AM PDT by Eva
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To: cripplecreek

Did you see the new caption on photo 6? it is the same guy...look at the shorts & no shirt.


159 posted on 08/09/2006 8:52:09 AM PDT by TankerKC (Step Back! Doors Closing.)
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To: mass55th

There is another person directly behind the shooter. The shooter is using an M-4 variant with a collapsible stock and a fore grip. I believe he has a magazine that is natural metal rather than blued.

I don't think this is photoshopped. It may be staged, but the guy is there shooting. THre is a fine haze of smoke in front of the two kids.

As for a pali with an M-16 variant. Remember -- we equipped the PA "police" after the Oslo accords.


160 posted on 08/09/2006 8:52:15 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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