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Ed Koch: I'm Backing Independent Lieberman
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Posted on 08/08/2006 9:16:58 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002
Ed Koch: I'm Backing Independent Lieberman
New York's "Mayor for Life" and one of the country's most prominent Democrats says he's backing Joe Lieberman's independent run for U.S. Senate.
"There's no blood oath binding him not to run as an independent," Edward Koch told NewsMax.
Koch predicts that Lieberman, running as an independent, would win the general election handily. He also noted that Lieberman would continue to caucus with Democrats when he takes his seat in the Senate.
Even though he's in trouble with the extreme left wing of his party, Lieberman, like most Democrats, was right to support President Bush on the War in Iraq, says Koch.
"The issue of terrorism is the only issue on which I agree with the president, but it goes to the issue of the survival of this country, to its very existence," he explained...
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: election2006; electioncongress; joementum; koch; lieberman
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To: Greg Weston
Koch is a liberal, nothing conservative about him.
Don't you mean "JEW" ?
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posted on
08/09/2006 5:06:59 AM PDT
by
MJY1288
(THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
To: MJY1288
No I mean Neo-CON. Just like Bush, Cheney, Lieberman,and the rest of the "America is the Cop of the World" crowd.
To: Greg Weston
Pat Buchanan is that you?
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posted on
08/09/2006 5:27:26 AM PDT
by
MJY1288
(THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
To: BigSkyFreeper
>>I don't even know who the Republican is...does he have a chance?
No.<<
The Leiberman is probably the best we are gonna do. The senate is too important to hope a anti-war liberal wins just to provoke a Guiliani style backlash.
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posted on
08/09/2006 7:12:25 AM PDT
by
gondramB
(We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished and the works of your dark master)
To: nutmeg
>>Alan Schlesinger, former mayor of Derby, CT. Here's some recent news about him:<<
>>Word of his gambling debts will renew calls for Schlesinger to abandon his tattered candidacy...<<
Well, looks like Joe is the best viable choice.
Not to mention I looked up Darby Ct.
The City of Derby, the smallest city in the state of Connecticut, covers 5.3 sq. miles and has 12,080 residents.
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posted on
08/09/2006 7:23:54 AM PDT
by
gondramB
(We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished and the works of your dark master)
To: Cringing Negativism Network
Not really. Lieberman's support went up in the last few days after he called for Rummy's resignation and told the people he "got their message." I think there is serious support for bringing troops back on a timetable.
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posted on
08/09/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT
by
notigar
To: gondramB; RaceBannon; Koblenz; jwalsh07; StarFan
>>Alan Schlesinger, former mayor of Derby, CT. Here's some recent news about him:<<>>Word of his gambling debts will renew calls for Schlesinger to abandon his tattered candidacy...<<
Well, looks like Joe is the best viable choice.
It looks that way to me, too. Schlesinger has been on all the local radio programs this morning, vowing that he won't drop out of the race, and he thinks he has a great chance to win. In his dreams, maybe.
I'm worried that the Republican and Independent voters will split over Schlesinger and Lieberman, and we will end up with Lamont as our moonbat senator. I'll take Senator Lesser Evil (Lieberman) over Lamont any day.
Then there's the question whether popular Republican governor Jodi Rell will side with Schlesinger (many CT Pubbies are begging him to drop out of the race) or Lieberman... or will she support neither? It will be an interesting fall here in Connecticut, although I'm not looking forward to the barrage of negative ads that will soon blanket the radio and TV airwaves...
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posted on
08/09/2006 8:40:42 AM PDT
by
nutmeg
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
To: appeal2
Rudy was a prosecuter, so he's gonna be the law and order mayor. Koch was pretty much the anti-machine, machine mayor.
Most of the deals involving Times Square were cut under Koch. The fashion industry stuff, like fashion week, etc. which brings in a couple hundred million to the city, was under Koch. A lot of development downtown. Closing the SROs, etc. were all under Koch.
So, all this stuff is in place when Rudy comes in, but the city is in a recession. Property values falling, crack running wild. Murder rate above 2,000. And Rudy hires/promotes a bunch of genius cops -- Bratton, Timmony (sp?), Jack Maple, Kelly, etc. They start enforcing quality of life laws, put computers in cars, put computers in 1PP. etc. etc.
To some degree crack is a "self cleaning oven" and crime drops, but to a larger degree, all the new programs work as the deals that Koch cut come to fruition.
108
posted on
08/09/2006 12:12:59 PM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: durasell
Describing Koch as the 'anti-machine, machine mayor' is 100% accurate. Koch could usually be counted on to see things clearly.
I recall Koch during the Bernie Goetz situation, while prominent black leaders in town were quick to play the race issue, Koch clearly said that you can't jump to a conclusion of racism every time a black is the victim of a crime.
Koch lost a lot of his steam when he criticized Jewish NYers who consider supporting Jesse Jackson in his 1988 bid for the Presidency. This cost him with blacks and with Jewish NYCers, and he lost the party primary for Mayor to Dinkins a year or so later.
The thing is, while Koch to an extent set the stage for the NYC resurgence, the Dinkins admin was sandwiched between Koch and Rudy. If anyone would have been the beneficiary of that foundation, it would have been Dinkins. The problem was he was just a terrible mayor with rotten judgment. His tenure certainly set things backwards, while to be fair to Rudy, his tenure set things forward, on a fairly fast track.
Best thing with Mayor Ed is there was seldom any doubt as to where he stood on an issue. Even if I disagreed with him, he was clear and unambiguous. He wouldn't cart out 1/2-assed arguments for his positions, he would (usually) make a rational case for it, even if I thought he was wrong.
I'd vote for him. I think 21st century politicians on both sides of the aisle can take some lessons from that.
The one thing Koch did consistently obfuscate about was various legal problems or indictments all over NYC politics during his (long) watch. Some of them clearly traced back to City Hall, so he had to circle the wagons a bit. Most of it was off the beaten path - there is no way that any Mayors Office can prepare for the questions following the freaky Donald Manes story, for example. Koch did well.
Speaking of the Fashion industry, remember when you couldn't walk down 7th Ave in the 30s because of all the guys with the carts of dresses, suits, coats, etc? Haha! Back when NYC actually manufactured something! I miss that - I think that scene petered out as the 80s ended!
John Timoney was a bona-fide, tough Irish NYC cop (I think he was born in the old country). Good guy. His contributions went a long way to cleaning up NYC, which under the Dinkins watch was considered fairly unfixable.
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posted on
08/09/2006 12:32:03 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: HitmanLV
Donny Manes! Blast from the past!
I guess we're in agreement.
The guys with the carts -- Seventh Avenue Flyers -- are gone. All the old Jewish guys cutting material by hand up in those lofts on B'way and 38th are gone...Chinese and South American sweatshops are mostly gone.
However, what isn't apparent is that the fashion industry in NYC is bigger than it ever was...25 years ago a bunch of guys told me that NYC would be like Milan and I thought they were out of their minds. Turns out they were exactly right. It now brings in billions to the city. Who knew?
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posted on
08/09/2006 12:58:51 PM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: Biggirl
It will be an interesting race. Now if only we can get Cynthia the "moonbat" to run as an independent. LOL
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posted on
08/09/2006 1:03:22 PM PDT
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: HitmanLV
Oh yeah, on Dinkins. I always felt halfway sorry for the guy. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. History mugged him.
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posted on
08/09/2006 1:04:55 PM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: durasell
We're in wide agreement on this stuff: Koch, Dinkins, Rudy.
Dinkins wasn't up for the job. His worst gaffes make the Koch or Rudy big mistakes look tame. A riot in Crown Heights for a few days and 'The kids are just letting off some steam.' That's not what I look for in City Hall/Police Plaza.
Thing is, despite how sucky the Dinkins run was, he almost beat Rudy again in 1993.
Fashion is big in nyc, you are 100% correct. The stuff isn't actually made around 7th Ave/30s anymore. I do miss that.
I've been racking my brain - do you remember the name of the nyc woman politician/beauty contest winner that they tried to create a sexual innuendo with Koch? Part of his 'cover' when his sexual preference would ever get too much attention. I forget her name, but I think part of the irony of that story was that her own sexual preference was a bit of an 'issue' too. Go figure, huh?
I will always like Mayor Ed.
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posted on
08/09/2006 1:12:39 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: HitmanLV
That would have been Miss American 1945 and Bronx native, Bess Myserson.
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posted on
08/10/2006 12:30:50 PM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: durasell
That's it. Whenever I try to think of women nyc politicians, I always first think of Bella Abzug (I know it wasn't her), and Ruth Messinger (and I knew it wasn't her). Bess Myerson - tall woman, and quite the looker in her day!
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posted on
08/10/2006 12:35:20 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: HHKrepublican_2
Yes he did. Kock and Liberman are a few of the honest Libs that know what is at stake.
To: HitmanLV
Yeah, Koch was "dating" a chick from the Bronx! And you know what they say about those Bronx chicks...
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posted on
08/10/2006 12:39:28 PM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: durasell
Yea, right! In 1977 Star Wars came out, and in 1978 we believed a man could fly, and in 1979 the human adventure continued, but all of those events were a lot more believable than Ed 'dating' Bess Myerson, huh? :-)
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posted on
08/10/2006 12:56:00 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: HitmanLV
Yeah, Koch would never date a chick from the Bronx...
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posted on
08/10/2006 12:57:02 PM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: durasell
120
posted on
08/10/2006 1:09:43 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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