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Anger towards Americans high
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | August 7, 2006 | Sally Buzbee (A.P.)

Posted on 08/07/2006 5:33:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58

CAIRO, Egypt -- Anger toward America is high, extremists are on the upswing and hopes for democracy in the Middle East lie dashed. The Lebanon war is creating dangerous ripples in the war on terror, the future of Iraq -- even the effort to keep nuclear weapons from dangerous hands.

"America, we hate you more than ever," Ammar Ali Hassan wrote in the independent Egyptian daily Al-Masry Al-Youm, in the kind of visceral, slap-in-the-face rhetoric boiling across the region.

So far, the violence has not led allies to take steps that directly hurt America's strategic interests, such as forcing the military from its regional headquarters in Qatar or its naval base in Bahrain. And there are those who see the conflict as the bloody but necessary prelude to a real assessment by the Arab world of its choices: democracy and peace, or Islamic extremism and warfare.

Yet so far, almost every U.S. and European goal for the region -- keeping oil prices stable, promoting democracy, fighting extremists, strengthening moderates -- is suffering.

Jordan's pro-American King Abdullah gave the sharpest warning last week: Even if Hezbollah loses the military battle, its rising popularity among Arabs mean a like-minded group could pop up anywhere in the Middle East, even in his own country.

Others worry terror groups may already be directly benefiting. Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader has called on supporters to wage holy war against Israel in a clear effort to turn the hostility to its advantage.

More broadly, a wide swath of even progressive, middle-class people across the Mideast are outraged at the Israeli bombing of Lebanon and in part blame the United States. That means the long-sought U.S. effort to win Arab and Muslim "hearts and minds" -- so crucial to fighting terrorism -- has suffered a huge blow.

The signs are everywhere grim:

-- Moderates such as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas have become almost irrelevant. All hope of an Israeli-Palestinian "land for peace" deal lie in tatters for the foreseeable future.

-- Iran has received a prestige boost as a key Hezbollah backer, and it has gained some relief from its own problems: U.N. efforts to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions still limp along, but have taken a back seat.

-- The effort to calm Iraq has been "complicated," because the Lebanon war has boosted the prestige of Shiite extremists who are pushing Iraq toward civil war, said a senior U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity.

The fighting even led to tension between Washington and Iraq's Shiite moderates, when the country's prime minister was harshly criticized by Democrats for condemning only Israel, not Hezbollah.

-- The push for democracy in other Arab regimes, already stalled, has ground to a halt. The U.S. is unlikely to pressure allies such as Saudi Arabia or Egypt for reform when it needs their help to end the crisis. Even many Arab reformers now believe the U.S. cares more about supporting Israel than anything elsey.

Not everyone thinks U.S. goals are in a muddle.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice believes the fighting, though painful, is the "birth pang of a new Middle East."

-- meaning the bloodshed and disarming of Hezbollah are required before the region can move toward peace.

There is indeed a widely held view that the Arab world needs a shakeout before it can make progress toward democracy or peace -- to decide if it wants to follow Hezbollah and Iran or moderates such as the Palestinians' Abbas.

President Bush hinted at that when he called the Israel-Hezbollah fight part of a "a larger struggle between the forces of freedom and the forces of terror."

Still others believe some of the Arab support for Hezbollah and its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, could wane once the bombing ends and those in Lebanon take a hard look at the damage.

William Brown, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, contends America and Europe could seize an opportunity if Israel managed to disable Hezbollah temporarily. Brown said the U.S. should try to push a comprehensive peace plan that involves Israel, the Palestinians, Syria and Iran once the fight is over.

But he is skeptical the United States has the ability or will.

"I wouldn't like to see Nasrallah emerge as a hero in all this," Brown said. "But it's a distinct possibility."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; boilingover; everyoneelseiswrong; feelingismutual; finalsolutiontime; hatred; mediajihad; mohamedanmedia; rage; thirdworld; whocares
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To: sarasmom

I really enjoy killing fire ants, to enhance my joy I just pretend that they are Islamofacist fire ants.

TT


61 posted on 08/07/2006 6:18:26 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Fenris6
Here's the sole of my shoe for "world opinion". Go pound sand.

LOL! My sentiments exactly!
62 posted on 08/07/2006 6:18:35 PM PDT by Brizick (Repeal the 17th Amendment)
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To: coconutt2000

"Anger toward America is high"

I saw the headline, and saw it was a Conn. newspaper, and thought "What's new?" But then I realized they were not talking about local residents and the primary.


63 posted on 08/07/2006 6:19:43 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: Holicheese

Sarcasm and understatement.


64 posted on 08/07/2006 6:20:57 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
I saw the headline, and saw it was a Conn. newspaper, and thought "What's new?" But then I realized they were not talking about local residents and the primary.

Wait until foreign powers and our enemies start counterfeiting our absentee ballots.

65 posted on 08/07/2006 6:22:21 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: gondramB
Even if its all true, the only thing that's our fault is that we still refuse to convert or submit to them. They don't hate Europe because it's practically theirs already. They know we will always be the hold out after the rest of the West is erased.

We didn't make Islam destructive. We didn't expand Sharia at the point of a sword. We didn't turn a "peaceful tolerant people" into crazed psychos.

66 posted on 08/07/2006 6:23:21 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Graybeard58
Anger toward America is high, extremists are on the upswing and hopes for democracy in the Middle East lie dashed. The Lebanon war is creating dangerous ripples in the war on terror, the future of Iraq -- even the effort to keep nuclear weapons from dangerous hands.

Gee .. could that be because of the bogus pictures and reporting from the MEDIA??

And gee ... when did we join the war in Lebanon?

67 posted on 08/07/2006 6:24:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Graybeard58

In a sane world, shouldn't these losers be much more concerned about whether WE will get angry with them?


68 posted on 08/07/2006 6:24:14 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: Graybeard58

Screw them!when you got em by the balls dont worry their hearts and minds arent far behind.They hate us?thats nothing new.Been that way for over 1000 years.


69 posted on 08/07/2006 6:26:46 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: sarasmom

Well said! :-)


70 posted on 08/07/2006 6:28:58 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (There is no such thing as Moderate Islam...)
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To: Graybeard58

Gee, this headline could have been written last year, and the year before and the year before etc. -- and was.


71 posted on 08/07/2006 6:31:28 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Graybeard58

In the great scheme of things, we're still in the early part of the game, perhaps the 2nd inning. These whiners are so short-sighted and need instant results and gratification. "Don't be hatin'; be waitin'!"


72 posted on 08/07/2006 6:32:04 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: Graybeard58
Arabs must have some kind of mutant gene, that allows them to carry on this sustained rage. Normal people would be dropping like flies from strokes and heart attacks!
73 posted on 08/07/2006 6:32:04 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 69-71)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
"In a sane world, shouldn't these losers be much more concerned about whether WE will get angry with them?"

Yup.
After all, we are the ones that had 3000 of our fellow citizens murdered by a bunch of psychotic, genocidal Arab vermin.
74 posted on 08/07/2006 6:32:27 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Alouette

Eating sand for 1200 years gets to a person.


75 posted on 08/07/2006 6:33:05 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: Alouette
"Normal people would be dropping like flies from strokes and heart attacks!"

How do you know they are not? :)
They may very well have very high rates of stroke and heart disease in that part of the world.
76 posted on 08/07/2006 6:33:54 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Graybeard58

I don't care if they love us or hate us, as long as they FEAR us!


77 posted on 08/07/2006 6:33:59 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Graybeard58
Ammar Ali Hassan is a displicable little maggot, as is his wife, his mother, his father, his eldest son, and his brother.

If he had any guts he'd come over here and dare say that to my face.

78 posted on 08/07/2006 6:34:02 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Graybeard58
"I wouldn't like to see Nasrallah emerge as a hero in all this,"

Yalla ya Nasrallah Nidfok otcha inshallah

79 posted on 08/07/2006 6:36:04 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 69-71)
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To: martin_fierro

I hate YOU for posting that. Damn, that's cruel!


80 posted on 08/07/2006 6:38:35 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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