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To: Old Student
...possible both theories are right.

Very true. I've seen more than one instance where people died for their respective positions and the REAL answer turned out to be a "both/and" solution.

Regarding your experiences with your father, Gold's question about the reason behind those fossils being there really grabbed me. "How could you take a forest and mulch it all up so that it is a completely featureless big black substance and then find one leaf in it that is perfectly preserved?" His explanation is quite compelling.

One other element in the discussion -- one that I did not see among the others on the webpage I linked to -- is the depth at which modern drilling techniques are allowing us to access oil deposits. I've heard numbers as great as 8 miles. Well, barring a violent upheaval of the crust that would have devastated all life on Earth, it seems hugely unlikely -- I'll refraing from saying "impossible" -- that any part of the crust that was ever a heavily vegetated portion of the Earth's surface could have been subsumed to such a great depth. Even in such an instance, that it could have also carried with it and retained the majority of the biomass that had grown upon it, seems vanishingly unlikely.

So, I think that the "both/and" answer is most probably correct.

63 posted on 08/08/2006 12:29:27 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Blessed is the Nation who's God is YHVH.)
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To: HKMk23
"Well, barring a violent upheaval of the crust that would have devastated all life on Earth, it seems hugely unlikely -- I'll refraing from saying "impossible" -- that any part of the crust that was ever a heavily vegetated portion of the Earth's surface could have been subsumed to such a great depth. Even in such an instance, that it could have also carried with it and retained the majority of the biomass that had grown upon it, seems vanishingly unlikely. "

You need to look into plate tectonics. This is a generally accepted explanation for a number of things, including how large quantities of biomass could get to such depths, and also why it would take millions of years to renew sources of oil and coal; it's this explanation that makes coal and oil "non-renewable" resources. Funny thing, when I was in high school, plate tectonics was considered nonsense by my geology teacher, and I'm old, but not that old. Google "Alfred Wegener" for some good links to info about him and his theory of "continental drift." He was actually wrong about exactly how it works, but it was a good starting point for later researchers.
64 posted on 08/08/2006 12:46:56 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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