GOPers to Political Prophets: 'Nuts To You'

Human Events ^ | August 7, 2006 | John Gizzi

[kesg]

If the election were held today, the Rats would have a big win.

I wouldn't be so sure. They might gain some seats, and even then I wouldn't necessarily bet the ranch.

[uncbob]

"At this time in 1998 [the last closing mid-term election of an eight-year presidency]. Republicans thought they would win thirty more seats.

That was that delusional political boob Gingrich's prediction

After picking uo over 50 seats in 94 just where the hell did Newt think they were getting 30 more

NEWT was overcome with grandeur in 94 thinking his Contract With America was the raeson for the GOP onslaught

It wasn't it was Bill Clinton with his Gun Control--Abortion policies--and Gays in thge MIlitary that got Gun Owners and Christian Conservatives to the polls in droves .

Then as usual the GOP disappointed their base and some stayed home in 98 giving the dems a pickup of 6

And because of Newts prediction the MSM painted it as a huge loss for the GOP despite the fact they held on to the House

[jmaroneps37]

When reading about doom and gloom for us look for two or three "tip off" items. If there is a reliance on generic polls the writer is an ash hole. If there is a reference to Florida as a "swing state" the writer is trying to put one over on us. If the write fails to mention rats jim marshall, chet edwards, alan molohan, jim barrows and stephanie herseth, he/she is a lying POS.

[uncbob]

Can't see any GOP voters going for the dems

The problem is

They might stay home

OR

A big influx of new Dem voters from those who didn't bother to vote before

[Russ]

You're correct. My mistake.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>NEWT was overcome with grandeur in 94 thinking his Contract With America was the raeson for the GOP onslaught

Newt's Contract With America gave GOP candidates a clearly defined conservative campaign agenda to rally around and run on in 1994. The Democrats ran on their standard liberal agenda of tax increases, spending increases and social liberalism. American voters were impressed with the CWA and voted for Republicans giivng them a 54 seat pickup. The results speak for themselves. Newt may have taken a hard fall five years later, but the CWA was a resounding success story.

[uncbob]

Newt's Contract With America gave GOP candidates a clearly defined conservative campaign agenda to rally around and run on in 1994

NOPE
Exit polls showed the vast majority of voters hadn't the faintest idea what the CWA was even about or that it even existed
It was a NON FACTOR

Hell even Bill Clinton admitted the GUN CONTROL issue cost the dems the house in 94 .Add in the Christian Conservatives and it became a rout

[nopardons]

Not only have I been saying the same thing here, for months, I stand by it still, today. And now, finally, I have an "expert's" corroboration....almost word for word. LOL

[nopardons]

Because doom&gloomers always favor Dems...even when the pundit is supposedly Republican/Conservative. Why that is, I have NO idea at all.

[Reagan Man]

Exit polls are even a less reliable source of sound data then pre-election polls are. They're highly subjective, at best. In 1994 there was only one source of exit polling data, VNS. Remember the VNS results in 2000. VNS died after the 2002 election. Since the CWA was released just six weeks before the election, I'd guess many folks didn't know it even existed as a political document.

Newt`s strategy was to nationalize the election in 1994 and for the most part I believe he succeeded. Consider this. In 1994 the Pew and Gallup pre-election polls had the GOP overtaking the Dems in the final month of the campaign. Perhaps the CWA did have a big influence on voters.

Whether the GOP`s message got out by way of the CWA or as individual issues from the overall GOP campaign agenda, the message got out nonetheless. Clinton was always a strong inspiration for conservatives of all stripes, especailly for gun owners. How many of the 54 House seats the GOP gained were produced by the CWA? Who knows. But to not give credit to Newt Gingrich for his long term effort in FINALLY making the GOP THE majority party in American politics for the first time in 40 years, is to ignore the historic results of the 1994 election itself. The CWA was a significant factor in the GOP winning control of the House.

>>>>Hell even Bill Clinton admitted the GUN CONTROL issue cost the dems the house in 94 .Add in the Christian Conservatives and it became a rout.

And you expected Clinton to say that Newt's CWA beat the Dems? LOL I don't think so. Gun owners, Christian conservatives, small government-tax reform fiscal conservatives, they ALL contributed to the GOP beating the Dems in 1994. Even Ronald Reagan played a role. Dick Armey and Newt wrote most of the CWA based on some of Reagan's speeches from the 1980`s which contained some principled conservative rhetoric. Call it, unfinished business.

[uncbob]

Keep thinking Newt Did it
If it makes you happy
But it was the gun owners and Christian Conservatives angered at Clinton

And as I posted delusional Newt predicted a gain of 25-30 seats in 98 and the GOP lost seats because some of the CC stayed home

[Fresh Wind]

Murtha's going down in flames. That's why you won't see any polls on that race.

[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

How does the Reuters scandal play into it? Isn't Reuters a foreign company?

[Reagan Man]

The 1994 election results speak for themselves.

History trumps revisionism.

[uncbob]

Ain't revisionism it is truth pure and simple

You want to live in your Newt Dream World be my guest

Bill Clinton was responsible for 94 not Newt

[Reagan Man]

If you want to live in the outer limits of the revisionist twilight zone, have at it.

[uncbob]

Nope don't want to infringe on your turf

[Reagan Man]

LOL

[frogjerk]

How does the Reuters scandal play into it? Isn't Reuters a foreign company?

Reuters news doesn't permeate the U.S. press? Also, if you think the problem is just with Reuters you are kidding yourself. This scandal will bleed into the AP and local rags

[frogjerk]

How does the Reuters scandal play into it? Isn't Reuters a foreign company?

Reuters news doesn't permeate the U.S. press? Also, if you think the problem is just with Reuters you are kidding yourself. This scandal will bleed into the AP and local rags

Case in point...

AP Beirut photo faces questions