A barbaric kind of beauty

Daily Mail ^ | 00:36am 7th August 2006 | By ANDREA THOMPSON

[conservative blonde]

"In America, President Bush has denounced stem- cell therapy even for medical purposes as 'godless', vetoing any public funding"

Andrea Thompson better get her facts straight. Bush and pro-life people have always supported adult stem cells (and umbilical cords and blood from them fall into the adult stem cell category). There is so much misinformation in the news media about stem cell research that it is not surprising the general public doesn't understand it. Of course, such misunderstanding works for the "give us death" crowd very well.

[conservative blonde]

Don't be naive. The author knows the difference but she is banking on the fact that the reader doesn't.

[after dark]

It must be so bitter for some women to get old and realize that men think chubby teenager girls are beautiful.

The women in the article remind me of the wicked queen from Snow White.

[DPMD]

"In America, President Bush has denounced stem- cell therapy even for medical purposes as 'godless'..."

NO, NO, and NO. Yet another lie to add murk to the ethical waters rising around the subject of stem cell research. President Bush has denounced EMBRYONIC stem cell research. It is a well documented fact that therapy and treatment using ADULT stem cells, not dependent on the murder of children, has been successful, while EMBRYONIC stem cell research, a sub rosa extension of the effort to institutionalize for all time abortion throughout the world, has accomplished nothing. The lies continue.

[dead]

Seriously, I want to ask Andrea what would possess her to write an article about a subject on which she obviously does not have even the slightest grasp on the most basic level.

There is no moral conflict in using stem cells gathered from umbilical cords. You can eat an umbilical cord sandwich if you like, or wear an umbilical cord hat if that's your fancy. It's gross, but you're not hurting anybody else.

[little jeremiah]

Seriously disturbing, in many ways. I find it odd that many on this thread seem to either have not read the entire article, or for some reason conclude none of it is true. I wonder why?

The cells from umbilical cords are the least of it; at least no harm has been done to anyone (that is, if the procedure is really safe for the recipient).

But much of the article is about using aborted babies or embryos. It is repellent and nightmarish in the extreme, and also vile that so many women are willing to be guinea pigs for their supposedly increased youth and beauty at the expense of death and suffering of others.

Word Gone Mad.

[little jeremiah]

Did you not read the parts of the article in which she discusses using tissues from aborted babies?

[dead]

Yes, I read it and understood it perfectly. Thanks for asking. It further illustrated her inability to distinguish between the ethically-neutral types of stem cell procedures and those that are controversial.

Did you not read this?

In America, President Bush has denounced stem- cell therapy even for medical purposes as 'godless', vetoing any public funding

She is wrong, either intentionally misrepresenting the facts, or ignorant of them.

[little jeremiah]

So the article is not perfect. But she does indeed go into some rather gruesome detail about using tissues from aborted babies - some apparently conceived for the purpose of killing them and using their tissues - for "medical" purposes. Did you not see that part?

You seem to be picking up on some ambiguity and ignoring the fact that people are using and advocating that which is patently evil and cruel.

[dead]

Did you not see that part?

Did you not see where I specifically stated that I saw that part?

I don’t know why you need to keep asking me these annoying questions. I said I read the article and I understood it.

I took issue with the writer's inability to distinguish between the gruesome horrific forms of stem cell treatment (yes, I read that part) and the perfectly acceptable forms. As far as I can see, my point was perfectly clear to everybody who read it, except you, and my sentiments were shared by a majority of people on this thread.

And before you ask me again, yes I did read where she described some of the more horrific procedures.

[.cnI redruM]

If that were the only place they got their stem clells, this would be a non-sequitor. Kind of like the stupid botox fad. But it is not.

[AmericanChef]

"Oh, no - we'd NEVER kill babies on purpose just to get their cells! It would never come to THAT!" I predict farms in the U.S. in 15-20 years.

[BigCinBigD]

I'll bet she has more plastic on her front end than a 99 Neon.

[Salem]

This is just gruesome.

[ValerieUSA]

Tell me again why the Nazi experiments were evil?

[MHGinTN]

Sadder still is this hate-filled dead soul 'journalist': In America, President Bush has denounced stem- cell therapy even for medical purposes as 'godless' ... The lie is so blatant that most will likely read right over it without noticing and just swallow the lie. It is getting astonishing how often the dead souled are spittling out this purposed obfuscation reagrding stem cells, conflating adult stem cells (cord blood stem cells) with embryonic stem cells (derived by blasting open the encapsulation of the balstocyst to get at the body parts, the embryonic stem cells). There was even a panel discussion on C-Span this evening where ethics directors for Harvard and Stanford consciously conflated the two trying to blur the truth so their audience (TV and live) would embrace embryo slaughteirng for stem cells. It is a sickening indication of how far down our nation has degenerated that such open lying is ignored.

[Screamname]

Injecting botulism into the freggin` face now this; Injecting afterbirth. Will John Kerry ever stop with his beauty treatments?

[.cnI redruM]

I'm not sure. I went to college in the late 20th Century and learned that it was all just relative.

[Coleus]

Babies -- Bought, Sold and Traded, in the Ukraine they sold baby parts for Skin Rejuvination, in Canada they sold "fresh" embryos for embryonic stem cell research and in the USA, physicians pressure parents to abort babies with certain birth defects. 

[nmh]

Notice how carefully they avoid the word, EMBYONIC, stem cell. This EMBYRONIC stem cell hullabaloo is ONLY on WIDHFUL thinking. NOTHING has substantiated it and I doubt it will do what they want it to.

The hope and progress has been with ADULT stem cells.