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The ABC is normally liberal biased like PBS but it offered a rare double today - a George Pell column and an interview with Mark Steyn.
1 posted on 08/07/2006 2:15:41 AM PDT by generalhammond
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But even if Yemen's fertility rate falls 50 per cent to 3.35, by 2050 it will be about the same size as Russia - 102 million - and overwhelmingly young.

This statement should stand out like a sore thumb to anyone!!

Herein lies the biggest weapon that Islam has today and slowly (perhaps not slowly) but surely these people are making their way over to Europe, USA and Canada and mass producing in these countries as well.

I say we make a new type of bomb that contains anti-fertility air borne particles that when breathed in renders a guy useless.

2 posted on 08/07/2006 2:45:57 AM PDT by snowman_returns (Dependency on the state breeds hate!)
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George Pell for Pope! He's a truly inspirational leader who knows whose who in the zoo.


4 posted on 08/07/2006 3:11:52 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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Does anyone care to speculate as to what America will be like when whites are in the minority in the U.S., which will be much sooner than 2050. Will it be like South Africa?

Between ZPG and PC, we(?) have created a fine mess and a quite uncertain future.


5 posted on 08/07/2006 3:27:25 AM PDT by David Isaac
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Every great nation and religion has shadows and indeed crimes in their histories. This is certainly true of Catholicism and all Christian denominations.

If Christians were burning people alive at the stake today, the world would be just as outraged with them as they are with Muslims. But Christians aren't burning people at the stake. They're not the issue. Right now, in this day and age, it's the Muslims who are doing evil. Muslim issues that must be addressed.

6 posted on 08/07/2006 3:38:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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These are also legitimate requests for our Islamic partners in dialogue. Do they believe that the peaceful suras of the Koran are abrogated by the verses of the sword? Is the programme of military expansion (100 years after Muhammad's death Muslim armies reached Spain and India) to be resumed when possible?

Unfortunately there are no "Islamic partners in dialogue" worth talking to. The ones we need to reach aren't interested in the kind of dialogue that Pell is talking about, and the ones that are - well, they're serious apostates in the minds of the ones with guns, RPGs, and worse.

Do they believe that the "peaceful suras" are abrogated by the "verses of the sword"? This is a question that no serious minded person can pose, even rhetorically.

The "peaceful suras" Pell refers to are often called the "Medina verses", and the "verses of the sword", the "Meccan verses". The Meccan verses are later in time, and by Mohammad's own words, he states that GOD HIMSELF insists that the later verses take precedence over the earlier verses. This is a settled question in the mind of virtually every Islamic authority.

Finally, Pell asks if the Muslim program of military conquest is to be "resumed".

Well, hasn't it, Mr. Pell?

What, if wonder, does he think this is that has been roaring around our heads like a whirlwind of death for the past three decades?

7 posted on 08/07/2006 3:52:24 AM PDT by John Valentine
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It is easy for us to tell Muslims that they must look to themselves and find ways of reinterpreting their beliefs and remaking their societies. Exactly the same thing can and needs to be said to us. If democracy is a belief in procedures alone then the West is in deep trouble. The most telling sign that Western democracy suffers a crisis of confidence lies in the disastrous fall in fertility rates, especially in Europe.

This guy is all over the map. How does he equate democracy with birth rates??
8 posted on 08/07/2006 3:52:58 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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