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To: goldstategop

I am sure I have asked this before. So please be patient, since I still don't have the answer.

Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?


3 posted on 08/06/2006 6:33:45 PM PDT by prov1813man
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To: prov1813man
I'm sure you have. Its that baggage from Europe. Jews carry it like a memory and things are slow to change. Jews are changing but I wouldn't look for a change in partisan identification/political outlook til much of the 60s radical generation is gone.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

5 posted on 08/06/2006 6:37:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal...? Here's Don Feder's answer.
8 posted on 08/06/2006 6:54:27 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater (Yeshayahu 26:4)
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To: prov1813man

There is no rational basis for it that I can think of other than that a democratic administration was in charge of fighting WWII. That was the dawn of 20th century democratic party power, and it probably had a lot to do with Jewish support of democrats, and then liberals, and then socialists.


13 posted on 08/06/2006 7:10:23 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?

Some American Jews see the religious right as Jew-hating fanatics.

14 posted on 08/06/2006 7:12:56 PM PDT by TChad
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To: prov1813man
I think this is changing.

When I was 14 years old (I'm Jewish), my grandparents got me a subscription to The Nation, which, as you may know, is a far-left publication that is sacred to many liberals.

By the time I was 19, I was a College Republican, and an assistant editor for a conservative monthly campus paper.

Now, 14 years later, I have convinced my dad and other members of my family to vote GOP, at least in the national election.

Socialism runs deep in Jewish families. It's not an antisemitic slur when someone mentions that Marx and Trotsky and many others were Jews. The concept of the kibbutz, of communal living, of sharing and working in family units once drew many Jews to the left. Moreover, there was a strain of conservative that, up until 20 years ago, wasn't very friendly to Jews.

The net result is that the left has benefited greatly from Jewish volunteers and from money from Jewish donors. We tend to be very active politically (we have to be), and with a lot of successfully Jewish professionals and businessmen (and women), there are a lot of financial resources there.

But in the last 15 years, things have changed. A rabidly antisemitic left that has found common cause with radical Islam means that, except for the most deluded, this love-affair between the Jews and the left is over.
18 posted on 08/06/2006 7:37:06 PM PDT by Civ
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To: prov1813man

If you are raised by a Jewish mother, you grow up guilty.


24 posted on 08/06/2006 8:08:16 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: prov1813man

Dennis Prager has written on this. See Jewish World Review. But there is more to it. Jews attend the "Best Universities"; That's the story right there. I was fortunate enough to have William Kristol as a professor for 2 seminars as a senior at Penn. Still, all History, Poli Sci. and Econ. majors, even Wharton, were trained to graduate as communists, and only a few of us have filtered it out since.


29 posted on 08/06/2006 9:43:46 PM PDT by jschwartz
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?

If I may be so bold to answer your question from my perspective, Jews see politics as separate from friendship. Their politics are based not on who is their friend, but on what they believe in. The are liberal primarily because they believe in freedom over state control as the state is the one who leads the way in pogroms of Jewish mass extinction.

Thats my guess, from living with them for years...

30 posted on 08/06/2006 9:51:02 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?

This question was given to Mark Levin on his radio program. My apologies to the Great One if I do not state his answer as well as he, but basically Mark said that they are Liberals first, and Jews second. In other words, they worship at the altar of Liberalism, not Judaism.

To that I might add an observation given to me by one of my college Sociology professors (a good professor, as I recall): Judaism is not merely a religion. It is both a religion and an ethnicity. There are Jews (ethnic) who are, per se, not Jewish (religious). They may not have stepped into a Synagogue in 40 years. Can they be portrayed by the media as "Jews"? Of course. But they are not religious. These Jews probably feel much more at home with Liberalism than with their "co-religionists."

39 posted on 08/07/2006 6:17:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: prov1813man

Old saying, "They live like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans." I know young Jewish families who thought it was anathema to vote for Bush's re-election.


49 posted on 08/07/2006 8:50:26 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Confidential to Bush: protect the borders. The first word in "illegal immigrant" is...?)
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To: prov1813man

It's rather complex but I think you have to look at it generation by generation and social movement by social movement.

Nearly all immigrants embraced FDR and that included the Jews and their children who came over before (or were raised through) the Great Depression. They shared common cause on the New Deal and, FDR was (relative to today) a conservative that Jews from Europe, Catholics from Ireland and Italy could embrace. On the principles he led us into a righteous war which they supported.

The children of those immigrants - the boombers - with the New Deal already a part of society, turned to social activism. They made common cause with other minorities, supported equal rights, civil rights etc. Understandable, really. To a degree politics confused them as those they supported really simply used the issues without really seeking realistic long term solutions. The southern democrats were not the same as the northern democrats at all. But since most Jews were and are cosmopolitan (city dwellers) those they supported were democrats (they would not have supported most southern democrats). Here it becomes tricky at that time you couldn't really associate an ideology with a party. Most democrats were segregationists, so there was fighting within the party at that time. It was a fight within the party and they took a side inside that party (eventually winning) and became embedded thereafter. They worked within the party and won, so that is the basis of their attachment to it.

Bush Sr. set back the GOP's relationship with the Jewish voters. Reagan had begun to make strong inroads but there was a big distrust of Bush Sr. which turned into distaste during his term. He came across as elitist, which Jews don't tend to like, and then in office came down strong against Israel while his Secretary of State essentially said "F the Jews". No surprise then that over 90% of the Jews voted for someone other than Bush Sr. in his run for a second term. I personally voted for Bush Sr. in 1988, I voted for Browne in 1992.

There remains skepticism about making common cause with Fundamentalist Christians. I think over time this concern will erode as replacement theology erodes. But among the Generation X Jews there is a growing tendency to see the GOP favorably.


52 posted on 08/07/2006 9:53:41 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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