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One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 08/05/2006 | Richard Macey

Posted on 08/05/2006 7:34:12 AM PDT by oxcart

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To: Smedley; oxcart
I do think that its highly probably that some NASA career "manager" had the tapes in a file cabinet for 20-30 years, then threw them away when he retired.

I can see that happening, or the more likely scenario is that after he retired, the folks who went in to clean out his office went, "Hey Charlie, what do we do with all these old tapes, any idea what they are?" Charlie: "Hell, I dunno, but if no one's used them in 20 years, they must not be important, take 'em out to the dumpster."

61 posted on 08/05/2006 10:21:39 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
The closing scene of the government warehouse in the first Indiana Jones movie comes to mind!

I've heard that that entire picture is a painting except for the part surrounding the moving crate.

62 posted on 08/05/2006 10:21:42 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: oxcart

"the tapes were moved in 1970 to the US National Archives"

Not good. The US National Archives destroyed many of the Naval Research Laboratory records sent there for storage.


63 posted on 08/05/2006 10:21:48 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Dumpster Baby

Looks like they parked in a really bad part of the Hadley Delta.


64 posted on 08/05/2006 10:24:56 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Things change. Get used to it)
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To: oxcart

Happy Birthday, Mr. Armstrong!


65 posted on 08/05/2006 10:36:18 AM PDT by pigsmith
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To: Drew68

From Popular Mechanics, April 15, 2003:

In addition to propelling America on the most dramatic voyages in human history, the Saturn V created a curious urban legend. In 1996, John Lewis, in his book Mining The Sky, made the startling claim that NASA had lost the Saturn blueprints. Like all rumors, the story contained a grain of truth. Paul Shawcross of NASA's Office of Inspector General came to the rescue. While the claim that the blueprints could not be found was true, that did not mean the engineering genius of the Saturn had been lost. The plans for the world's largest rocket still exist, on tiny pieces of microfilm.

And from the alt.folklore.urban newsgroup:

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SATURN V PLANS

Despite a widespread belief to the contrary, the Saturn V blueprints have not been lost. They are kept at Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.

The problem in re-creating the Saturn V is not finding the drawings, it is finding vendors who can supply mid-1960's vintage hardware (like guidance system components), and the fact that the launch pads and VAB have been converted to Space Shuttle use, so you have no place to launch from.

By the time you redesign to accommodate available hardware and re-modify the launch pads, you may as well have started from scratch with a clean sheet design.


66 posted on 08/05/2006 10:52:37 AM PDT by Starter
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know
these were destroyed because these higher quality images actually revealed an Arizona highway sign in the distance behind the Lunar Excursion Module.

Wow! But why did they take an Arizona highway sign all the way to the MOON???

67 posted on 08/05/2006 10:55:58 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Starter
From Popular Mechanics, April 15, 2003:

Thanks for digging that up. I had hoped it wasn't true. I'd hate to think NASA was that incompetent!

68 posted on 08/05/2006 10:55:58 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

And that reminds me of the closing scene in the South Park spoof (but I repeat myself! :) about the Indiana Jones tapes. They used a warehouse scene like this to indicate where the originals had gone, but the warehouse had a sign "Red Cross 9/11 Relief Funds", or something similar.


69 posted on 08/05/2006 11:00:26 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sophomore dies in kiln explosion? Oh My God! I just talked to her last week...)
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To: oxcart

This is because the tapes show members of the alien colony inhabiting the dark side of the moon coming over to invite Neil and the boys to dinner!


70 posted on 08/05/2006 11:03:31 AM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: oxcart
Maybe they can try asking Hazel O'Leary, of "Los Alamos nuclear secrets tapes" fame?

After all. she has had a lot of experience with never finding critically important missing tapes.

71 posted on 08/05/2006 11:34:31 AM PDT by Gritty (On 9/11 the herd mentality-big govt wedded to ‘70s hijack procedures-failed spectacularly-Mark Steyn)
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To: Starter
the Saturn V blueprints

We can rebuild it. Faster, stronger, cheaper better.

72 posted on 08/05/2006 11:37:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Smedley
I do think that its highly probably that some NASA career "manager" had the tapes in a file cabinet for 20-30 years, then threw them away when he retired.

Yeah, right. I've got a bridge for sale...

73 posted on 08/05/2006 11:39:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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To: cajun-jack

They were sent back to the studio to be reworked for the upcoming Mars mission.


74 posted on 08/05/2006 11:46:41 AM PDT by OldMagazine (You can only do what you can do.)
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To: oxcart

You can't expect these people to know what they are doing. They are not exactly rocket scien . . . oh, hang on!


75 posted on 08/05/2006 11:49:50 AM PDT by qlangley
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To: GatorGirl
"This is because the tapes show members of the alien colony inhabiting the dark side of the moon coming over to invite Neil and the boys to dinner!"

Carrying a book entitled, "To Serve Man"?
76 posted on 08/05/2006 11:55:05 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Starter
Thanks for that info. I suppose (and hope)someday we will be posting a similar retraction about this story.
77 posted on 08/05/2006 12:12:38 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [Sic])
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To: GatorGirl
LOL Were Neil and Buzz the main course?
78 posted on 08/05/2006 12:14:36 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [Sic])
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To: oxcart
I am beginning to realize that we never landed on the moon. Not because I subscribe to any of those ridiculous conspiracy theories but because of the simple fact that nearly 40 years has now transpired and we still have yet to send people past the orbit of the earth.

Now think about the technological changes that took place between 1929 and 1969 and then think about the technological changes that took place from 1969 to the present day. I think we can all agree that the world changed much faster during the past 40 years.

There is more computing power in a simple cell phone than existed in the largest mainframe that existed in 1969 and we are to believe that we landed men on the moon back in those prehistoric times while we can scarcely get people into orbit these days? Give me a break.

79 posted on 08/05/2006 12:21:51 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am a big fan of urban sprawl but I wish there were more sidewalks)
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To: oxcart; RightOnTheLeftCoast

LOL!

You and Right have the same idea!


80 posted on 08/05/2006 12:25:41 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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