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To: A. Pole; Tailgunner Joe

I predicted this a long time ago. In time I am pretty sure that we will find that both sides of this "coalition" government are controlled by Moscow. Let's see how much they dupe and fleece the West now that they have their dialectic in place.


3 posted on 08/04/2006 4:13:47 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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4 posted on 08/04/2006 4:15:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; GarySpFc

I don't think either side is "controlled" by Moscow. Rather their collective incompetence plays right into Moscow's hands. Yushenko and Timoshenko are not true democrats. Never were and never will be. They are that breed of Slavic "Democrat" that believes as long as they tell the West they are "reformist" or "democratic" the West will ignore their shady dealings, kleptocratic ways, and lip service to democratic ideals. The so-called democrats in Russia are the exact same. They play lip service to democracy but continue shady dealings with oligarchs ensuring they are personally enriched. The electorate can see through it and seek out the nationalist candidates. This trend will continue as long as charlatan democrats run in the region and as long as we don't do our research on who we are actually supporting. Unfortunately, the pseudo-democrats are very good at keeping the true reformers down and out. They're also extremely proficient at never agreeing amongst themselves. In Ukraine it's Timoshenko and Yushenko falling out frequently. In Russia it's Yavlinsky refusing to link up with Nemtsov's or Khamadova's forces - a disunited front will never be victorious.


6 posted on 08/04/2006 4:35:17 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: GodGunsGuts
In time I am pretty sure that we will find that both sides of this "coalition" government are controlled by Moscow.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the Soviet Union is dead. Yes, there are criminals here and there along the lines of the mafia in America's twenties, and Moscow does have influence, but not to the degree you are implying.
8 posted on 08/04/2006 7:43:59 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The Ukranian Military has ALWAYS been opposed to joining NATO, nor have there been the changes in the top brass, (this happened in all of the E.European countries which joined NATO and became democracies.


9 posted on 08/04/2006 8:44:31 PM PDT by Thunder90
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