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A Man, A Plan, A Canal [Suez, 1956]
Weekly Standard ^ | July 31, 2006 | Arthur Herman

Posted on 08/04/2006 11:08:04 AM PDT by Fiji Hill

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While I wouldn't go as far as to say that Suez was our biggest foreign policy blunder since the War of 1812, it certainly wasn't one of Eisenhower's or Dulles's better moments.

And while Dag Hammarskjöld's halo turns out to be tarnished, I'm not sure that he could have been much worse than the UN's current Secretary General.

1 posted on 08/04/2006 11:08:05 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

A Man, A Plan, A Canal

reminds of the word play:

A man a plan a canal panama spelled backwards is:
A man a plan a canal panama.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 11:09:48 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Fiji Hill

The biggest blunder the U.S. made in that situation was getting involved in the first place. There was no compelling reason for the U.S. to enforce some stupid agreement between Egypt and a former European colonial power.


3 posted on 08/04/2006 11:13:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Did you just make that up?

I'm kidding.

4 posted on 08/04/2006 11:13:08 AM PDT by wireman
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To: Fiji Hill

It was also the first war I actually paid attention to in the news.


5 posted on 08/04/2006 11:13:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: wireman

"Did you just make that up?"

In fact I did. I also invented the internet, Clinton was innocent, Vince Foster shot himself, Berger inadvertently misplaced secret documents in his underwear, and Dems care about this country.


6 posted on 08/04/2006 11:16:41 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Fiji Hill

What a bunch of nonsense! The French, Israelis, and Brits failed to tell Ike all the while it was the US that kept them free. If the Russians had stepped in, guess who would have to save their butts.
The current problems belong to Carter, the fool that allowed the crazies to take over Iran.


7 posted on 08/04/2006 11:20:52 AM PDT by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Fiji Hill
I remember this guy well

After his military successes, all the wannabees starting wearing a patch over one eye :)

8 posted on 08/04/2006 11:31:07 AM PDT by evad
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The current problems belong to Carter, the fool that allowed the crazies to take over Iran.

Amen, DITTO and absolutely positively.

The creator of world terror...along with many other reprehensible things.

9 posted on 08/04/2006 11:32:45 AM PDT by evad
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Eisenhower had wrecked the trust between the United States and its former World War II allies for a generation; in the case of France, for all time. If anyone wonders why French politicians are always willing to undermine American initiatives around the world, the answer is summed up in one word: "Suez."

This is just stupid. The French were undermining and backbiting the US long before this.

The idea that they were loyal allies prior to 1956, and would be still, had we not "blundered" at Suez, is just too ridiculous for words.

10 posted on 08/04/2006 11:33:40 AM PDT by Restorer
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Any old wargamers out there might like to know that Strategy and Tactics Magazine...(Yes the old S&T is still around) recently did a sim of the French/British Assault on Suez from this war.

I'll have to break it out now.
11 posted on 08/04/2006 11:37:57 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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Not as big an error as the author would have readers believe, but contemporaries have noted that Ike later considered it to be a mistake, as did Nixon in his memoirs. The idea was that Nasser would become pro-US, he didn't. It's not unreasonable to assume Arab duplicity over the Suez affected Nixon's actions in 1973.

12 posted on 08/04/2006 11:45:15 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Conan the Librarian

I used to read Strategy and Tactics. When I was in high school, I belonged to a wargaming club, called the Kriegspiel Society, that was set up by one of our history teachers.


13 posted on 08/04/2006 11:50:58 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Had Jimmy Carter been involved, he would have solved the problem by giving the canal away.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 12:13:32 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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While I wouldn't go as far as to say that Suez was our biggest foreign policy blunder since the War of 1812

Most useful responses to a complex situation demand more than a baseless opinion. In this case, for instance, can you think of a bigger one?

Other than perhaps handing over to the world's ugliest and mean baboons most of the world's energy supplies earlier in the century?

15 posted on 08/04/2006 12:16:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (overwhelming force behaving underwhelmingly is a waste.)
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To: Restorer
The idea that they were loyal allies prior to 1956, and would be still, had we not "blundered" at Suez, is just too ridiculous for words.

Our Oldest Enemy: A History of America's Disastrous Relationship with France by John J. Miller and Mark Molesky (Hardcover - Oct 5, 2004)

16 posted on 08/04/2006 12:22:19 PM PDT by Publius6961 (overwhelming force behaving underwhelmingly is a waste.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
I also invented the internet, Clinton was innocent, Vince Foster shot himself, Berger inadvertently misplaced secret documents in his underwear, and Dems care about this country.

Al Gore!

How the heck are you?

17 posted on 08/04/2006 12:41:12 PM PDT by wireman
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"The French, Israelis, and Brits failed to tell Ike all the while it was the US that kept them free."

That is exactly the way I remember it, and furthermore, I sat at a radar scope at Wheelus Air Base just a few miles east of Tripoli, Lybia and watched the invasion unfold. We watched as a huge air armada progressed across the Mediterranean from west to east. Our two detachments east of
Wheelus and closer to Egypt, kept reporting the progress of the invasion force after they left our radars. All the time we were unable to account for the aircraft until they crossed into Egyptian airspace. It was then that our allies informed us of what they had in progress. At that point it was too late for Ike to stop it, which they believed he would have if he had known.

For the next few weeks we paid a price in the Arab world for what the British, French and Israelis had done. We had to close our base and repel mobs at the gates, and the British had fuel dumps sabotaged in and around Tripoli by mobs. The night skies glowed bright orange. Even though it was only a dozen years after WWII, the toothless Tiger had already been born. We were required to walk atop the perimeter of the walls securing our radar site carrying Carbines with no clips and no ammunition. Our State Dpartment didn't want a shooting incident to occur. It never was clear to me what we would have done if an attempt to breach the wall had occurred, but I sure did give it a lot of thought when it was my turn to patrol the perimeter.

Just for memories sake, it was 50 years ago in July when I arrived at Tripoli, a scant three months before the invasion of Suez, and it was fate that had placed me in a position to be a witness to it.


18 posted on 08/04/2006 12:41:22 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: wireman

"How the heck are you?'

Bad Wire, real bad. (remember, you have got to read this in a very, slowwww, measured voice)
Movie has done poorly,...guess I should have hired at least one licensed climatologist. Seems global warming is the only gig in town right now. Went to a outdoor mountain man contest but they only wanted to roll me over in the water while they high stepped. Seems Slick has decided to come out and support me in my climate rant. Slick is looking sick. Must be like having a caged lion in heat stuffed in a rabbit pen. Hillary supposedly told him to keep it under wraps until after she is in the whitehouse and then she would cut him loose, right after she changes her name back to RottedHam. Well, that's all for now. I gotta take some more temp readings on the ice flow.
Al


19 posted on 08/04/2006 12:48:08 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Restorer

The French didn't trust us much after Ike said "no," to nuking the Commies at Dien Bien Phu in early 1954.


20 posted on 08/04/2006 12:48:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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