Posted on 08/02/2006 7:59:38 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Plane Crash Mars Naval Celebration
A Su-24M bomber crashed yesterday at the main base of the Baltic Fleet in the city of Balstiisk during Naval Fleet Day celebrations attended by Defense Minister and First Deputy Prime Minister Sergey Ivanov. In spite of the emergency, three other bombers did not return immediately to the base, as they were supposed to. One of them was only able to land on the second attempt.
The festivities, which Ivanov observed from aboard the flagship destroyer Perservering, included a naval parade and parachute competitions, with an airshow as the finale. Four Su-24M bombers from the military base at Chernyakhovsk took part in the airshow. They had rehearsed two days in advance. The planes took off at 12:55 p.m. As the planes were heading for the area in which they were to perform, one of them, piloted by Col. Viktor Poshekhontsev and Lieut. Col. Boris Sedov strayed off course and crashed into the earth. That plane disappeared from radar screens at 1:35 and a search party was immediately launched. The organizers of the show decided to contravene procedure and allow the other three planes to perform. At 2:10, Baltic Fleet search helicopters found wreckage in woods near the village of Medovoe, Bagrationovsky District, 25 km. southwest of Kaliningrad and 3 km. from the Russian-Polish border. Both pilots died in the crash.
Ivanov was informed of the crash after the airshow. He cancelled a planned briefing for journalists, explaining that tragedy had struck the holiday. He ordered an investigation, expressed sympathy for the families of the victims and traveled o the site of the crash in person.
Naval Fleet Day is frequently overshadowed by disaster. Last year, rehearsals involving a training mine almost sunk the parade's flagship Indomitable in the Neva River in St. Petersburg the day before the holiday. The ship was disabled. A number of officers were disciplined in relation to the incident and base commander Adm. Vladimir Kudryavtsev was forced to resign.
I think I flew it in a PC game once (Jane's USNF'97) and it was a dog there too.. (sorry about that)
Two years in a row? How does a training mine almost sink a flagship?
What the heck is going on over there? Putin siding with world terrorists, but fighting his own, and a military that seems incompetent.
Man, Russia needs help. When is Putin due to leave office? The world can't afford to have Russia slip back into old ways.
Check this out if you get a chance. It describes the deterioration of Russian nuclear arms:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060301faessay85204/keir-a-lieber-daryl-g-press/the-rise-of-u-s-nuclear-primacy.html
What the heck is going on over there?
Its a conscript army.
Sorry for the loss to that family.
This is kinda sad. They have a whole year to prep for this event. Given that Russia's not involved in a naval war with anyone, this is really the only time the navy's tested. And they keep on dropping the ball.
Like I could afford those back then... it did have the Marine expansion pack with the Harriers and stuff.... lol... I really liked that game
Naw, it's a Russian army. Near as I can tell, they've never placed a premium on training. They've had plenty of technically skilled folk, but seemingly training has never been a priority for them.
There have been plenty of fine conscript armies. Now, it's true that especially in this day and age it is hard to train conscripts to be proficient (especially with technology being what it is) in the time they're consripted, but historically there have been plenty of top-notch conscript armies. The Wehrmacht was a conscript army (as was the U.S. Army), and its quality is unquestioned. Even today, Germany uses conscription IIRC and I suspect they're still decent.
IDF.
QED.
Five points.
If I were only talking about Putin's policies regarding the Russian military,well their condition has actually improved under him.Vast quantities of obsolete fighters,ships & other systems have been axed or put into cold storage & the remainder has gone into upgradation or procurement.Overall training standards have supposedly improved as well.The same goes for his nuclear deterrent policy too.
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