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Cingular to raise prices for users of older phones
Reuters ^ | Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:33pm ET | Sfaff

Posted on 07/31/2006 10:06:04 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

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I read several years ago that local phone companies instead of charging customers a fee to use touch tone service actually should have been charging fees to continue using rotary dial phones, because the new switching equipment could handle touch tones more efficiently.

Are other cellular phone companies planning on switching to GSM? It sure would make it a lot easier to travel with only one cell phone.

1 posted on 07/31/2006 10:06:05 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

The fees that telcos charge for 'extras' have nothing to do with costs.

For example Caller ID data is transmitted with pretty much every call and the telcos developed special software to block it from being transmitted to those that do not pay extra.


2 posted on 07/31/2006 10:09:14 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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Most modern cell nets are GSM or some variant thereof (different frequencies).

There are already "world phones" that work in any GSM network.


TDMA was a pretty awful network to begin with, it needs to go away.


3 posted on 07/31/2006 10:09:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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T Mobile also uses GSM technology.

Sprint and Verizon, which use CDMA, sell a few CDMA & GSM-compliant phone models for international roaming.
4 posted on 07/31/2006 10:13:15 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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Will someone correct me if I'm wrong, but analog phone calls are not as susceptible to monitoring by the NSA as are digital ones.


5 posted on 07/31/2006 10:21:38 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Paleo Conservative

GSM "IS" a form of TDMA

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/G/GSM.html


6 posted on 07/31/2006 10:23:07 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back their race over country)
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I read several years ago that local phone companies instead of charging customers a fee to use touch tone service actually should have been charging fees to continue using rotary dial phones, because the new switching equipment could handle touch tones more efficiently.

Our local phone company has never done that in it's 50+ year existence. The only services they charge extra for are services like caller ID and voice mail on landline phones, and they're free on their cellular phone service.

7 posted on 07/31/2006 10:23:56 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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Cingular sold their old system to Metro PCS... local and long distance for a $40 flat fee.


8 posted on 07/31/2006 10:24:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Actually if you have an analog phone, people can trivially listen in on your calls with a scanner. Including the NSA, or your neighbors ;-)


9 posted on 07/31/2006 10:26:00 PM PDT by mhx
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Verizon and SWB do charge extra for touch tone. Not sure about the others.


10 posted on 07/31/2006 10:29:42 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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Too bad. The older analog cell phones sounded real good. The newer technology(digital) sounds like garbled poop. I dont know how people that depend on phone communication actually put up with the drop outs and poor quality.


11 posted on 07/31/2006 10:31:53 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Paleo Conservative

GSM is just a form of TDMA.


12 posted on 07/31/2006 10:38:42 PM PDT by glorgau
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...because the new switching equipment could handle touch tones more efficiently.

Area codes were initially assigned on the basis of population because of "tying" up the network dialing with rotary.

So, the larger the population, the smaller the sum of the digits. Areas with large cities NYC 212, Chicago 312,
LA 213, etc. If you look at the area codes, say pre-1990, it provides an interesting look at population centers.

13 posted on 07/31/2006 10:54:10 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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Very interesting.
14 posted on 07/31/2006 10:57:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Area codes were initially assigned on the basis of population because of "tying" up the network dialing with rotary.

BTW, why have area code splits been so annoyingly handled?

Once the N1X (second digit 0-1) area codes were replaced with NXX (allowing second digit to be 2-9), why were overflowing area codes still handled by splitting off some people while leaving the rest? Why not split off everybody but allow the old area code to be used when dialing old numbers? Until the dialing space was completely full there'd be no need to reclaim the old area codes; by then, most people would be using the new ones.

15 posted on 07/31/2006 11:03:47 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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Cingular Wireless, a venture of AT&T Inc. and BellSouth Corp., said on Monday it would start charging customers with older phones an extra $4.99 monthly fee as early as September unless they upgrade their phones as it moves toward using a single network technology.

Whaaaa? $4.99 extra a month!! I won't pay it!!

16 posted on 07/31/2006 11:06:35 PM PDT by Darth Republican
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Well, the nerve of those sorry sons of b!tches... I like my old bag phone:

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17 posted on 08/01/2006 3:15:17 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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I had one of those. I called it my "GI Joe" phone.


18 posted on 08/01/2006 4:34:05 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Analog calls are far *more* susceptible to monitoring. They're nothing but a radio signal in the high 800 MHz frequency range, and can be easily picked up by a normal everyday scanner. That is one big reason why Congress passed a law in the early 1990s requiring companies to block those frequencies in every scanner and radio receiving device sold in the US. (Many of them--including some that I owned--could be easily modified internally to get around the block, however.)

Remember the whole kerfuffle years ago when some Republican bigwigs' cellphone conversation got monitored, taped, and sent to Baghdad Jim McDermott? That was simply one 'Rat guy with a scanner who happened to stumble across the analog cellphone call, decided it sounded interesting, and recorded it.

}:-)4


19 posted on 08/01/2006 4:40:36 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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I had one of those. I called it my "GI Joe" phone.

When the landline went out here a few months ago, I had to lug that thing everywhere with me ( how else could BellSouth get in touch? ) and besides weighing a ton at day's end, I got all sorts of rude questions...

"That one O' them new 'man purses?'"

No, it's a cell phone...

That thang's a cell phone?"

Much like the eye rolls my teenage nieces give their grandmother's rotary-dial telephone...

20 posted on 08/01/2006 4:49:55 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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