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8/1 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/1/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 07/31/2006 9:38:15 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

The wife and father of kidnapped Israeli soldier Ehud Goldwasser, Karnit, holding a wedding photograph, and Shlomo Goldwasser arrive at Heathrow Airport in London, Monday July 31, 2006. Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers on July 12, triggering an Israeli offensive against Lebanon that has killed hundreds of people, mostly civilians.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; hezbollah; humanshieldsrus; iran; islam; israel; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslimcaliphate
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To: sageb1

No, this was reported a few days ago. They were stopped at the border between Iran and Turkey. The intrepid warriors then made a sit-in or sit-down or something, and if nothing has changed they are still sitting there.


661 posted on 08/01/2006 12:03:08 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: conservativepoet

Heard that Fox News was quoting Lebanese TV as saying Hizbullah killed 35 IDF, i'm sure that's overblown but i did notice where Israel has released for publication that there were some casualties today but no further specifics, this is very familiar to the chain of events leading to the release of info re deaths at Bent Jbail a week or so ago.


662 posted on 08/01/2006 12:03:42 PM PDT by jhp
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To: jhp
21:52 Dozens of Israeli Arab lawyers in Haifa protest Lebanon offensive (Itim)

21:37 Globe and Mail: Only 32% of Canadians back PM Harper`s support of Israel (Reuters)

21:16 Canadian foreign minister calls Hezbollah `a cancer,` raps Israel (Reuters)

20:47 Five Palestinians hurt as Fatah and Hamas gunmen clash in Gaza hospital (Reuters)

20:47 EU will not brand Hezbollah a terrorist organization (AP)

20:26 Canada calls for cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah, but tied to conditions (AP)

663 posted on 08/01/2006 12:05:56 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=34827⟨=fra&NewsRubrique=2

EU: Won't Add Hezbollah To List Of Terrorist Organizations

Tuesday August 1st, 2006 / 20h02

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP)--The European Union will not add Hezbollah to its list of terrorist organizations, the EU's Finnish presidency said Tuesday.

"Given the sensitive situation where we are, I don't think this is something we will be acting on now," Finland's Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja said Tuesday after a ministerial meeting that adopted a proposal aimed at ending the conflict between Israel and Lebanon.

Although the E.U., like the United States, considers Hamas a terrorist group, it has refused to add Hezbollah to the list despite recriminations from Washington.

Most Muslim nations consider Hezbollah - which battled Israeli forces during Israel's 18-year occupation of southern Lebanon - a legitimate national liberation movement. Russia too has refused to include either Hamas or Hezbollah on its list of terrorist organizations.

664 posted on 08/01/2006 12:07:47 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: La Enchiladita
According to Stratfor 60 of these



Armored Caterpillar D9 bulldozers (nicknamed Doobi (Hebrew: דובי; lit. teddy bear) are flattening abandoned Hezbollah positions across southern Lebanon
665 posted on 08/01/2006 12:09:19 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Fatah and Hamas gunmen "clash"???


666 posted on 08/01/2006 12:10:19 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

Yes, they do this all the time.


667 posted on 08/01/2006 12:11:11 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Oh great - Hezbolarva.


668 posted on 08/01/2006 12:11:55 PM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies
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To: AdmSmith

I guess they think fighting among themselves is good practice.


669 posted on 08/01/2006 12:12:01 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: AdmSmith

Is this akin to gang warfare?


670 posted on 08/01/2006 12:13:37 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: jhp
Haaretz just reports 3 Israeli soldiers killed in fighting in Southern Lebanon today.

G-d bless their souls and the rest of should be thankful for their ultimate sacrifice.

A general comment about casualty figures: It has been commented on many years ago that Israel is such a small and open nation that it is impossible for the authorities to keep casualty figures down - rumours would start to fly immediately and the trust between the authorities and the population would be hurt. However, the newspapers always tell their readers that they are not at liberty to divulge casualty figures until the relatives have been informed.

Regarding the number of killed Hezbollah it is more difficult to know. It appears that the IDF is conservative in its estimates, and they seem to only count confirmed "kills". Very little has been said about injured Hezzies.
671 posted on 08/01/2006 12:16:37 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: sageb1

Horrifying.


672 posted on 08/01/2006 12:17:05 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: Kimberly GG
......has anyone else noticed the sudden onslaught of commercials soliciting funds for Israel? There are several, all depicting Israeli women (assuming mothers/wives), sobbing incessantly while the narrator asks for donations?

The way you describe that indicates you have a problem with ...what?

673 posted on 08/01/2006 12:20:43 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: La Enchiladita; jhp; Adam Smith; jeffers

3 IDF soldiers killed in Lebanon

Cleared for publication: Three troops killed during battles in Aita al-Shaab in south Lebanon; paratroopers operating in village since pre-dawn Tuesday; at least six Hizbullah members killed in fighting
Hanan Greenberg

Another day of fierce fighting in Lebanon: Three IDF soldiers were killed Tuesday in two confrontations with Hizbullah in the village of Aita al-Shaab about one kilometer from the Israeli border.

Twenty-five more soldiers, among them one IDF officer, were lightly wounded. Including the casualties Tuesday, the number of soldiers
who have fallen during fighting in the north over the past three weeks rose to 36. An additional 28 civilians have been killed.

The soldiers were killed in two separate incidents of fighting. In each incident, Hizbullah operatives fired anti-tank missiles towards troops. The first missile killed an officer and soldier, and the second killed another soldier.

Paratroopers have been operating in the village since pre-dawn Tuesday, with air force and tank brigade backup. At least six Hizbullah terrorists were killed in the fighting.

Brigadier-General Alon Friedman, head of the IDF’s Northern Command headquarters, said “the ground forces are operating with the back-up of artillery fire to clear the area of terrorists and weapons caches; some 20 terrorists have been hit since the fighting began this morning.”

A military official described the difficult battles: “At every moment, a terrorist pops up. The shooting here doesn’t let up for a minute. Terrorists are operating from within posts, within houses and between them.”

Shortly after the political-security cabinet approved the widening of the ground offensive in south Lebanon, forces began deploying to numerous sites along the border. Overnight Tuesday, paratroopers began operating in the village with backup from tank brigades and the Air Force.

The village Aita al-Shaab is located roughly one kilometer from the Israeli border, although the IDF clarified that the army would operate anywhere in south Lebanon which housed terror infrastructure.


674 posted on 08/01/2006 12:25:54 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: redgolum

She is sweet, your wife.


675 posted on 08/01/2006 12:27:00 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: ScaniaBoy

"They were stopped at the border between Iran and Turkey. The intrepid warriors then made a sit-in or sit-down or something, and if nothing has changed they are still sitting there."

Ok. Forgive the response delay. I tried to plug in just one more fan...and blew the circuit. lol!


676 posted on 08/01/2006 12:28:54 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: La Enchiladita

arutz

22:10 Aug-01-06
Released for Publication: 3 IDF Soldiers Dead in Battle
21:55 Aug-01-06
Germany and the Czech Republic Join Britain and Reject EU Document
21:25 Aug-01-06
Nahariya Hit by Katyusha Fire
21:25 Aug-01-06
Air Raid Sirens Blaring in Northern Communities
21:15 Aug-01-06
IAF to Resume Full Air Strikes An Hour After Midnight
21:00 Aug-01-06

JP


Mortar shells land in w. Galilee; none wounded
[ 01/08 21:08 updated 21:09 - ISRAEL ]
Rockets land near Nahariya; none wounded
[ 01/08 20:58 - ISRAEL ]
Sirens sounded in Nahariya and Shlomi
[ 01/08 20:52 - ISRAEL ]
Iran: US, Britain accomplices in Lebanon attacks
[ 01/08 20:49 - IRAN ]
Body of three-year-old found in abandoned car
[ 01/08 20:15 - ISRAEL ]
Olmert says Israel is defeating Hizbullah
[ 01/08 19:22 updated 19:42 - ISRAEL ]


Canada says Hizbollah is "a cancer"
(22:19 , 08.01.06)
3 soldiers killed in southern Lebanon
(22:06 , 08.01.06)
Warning sirens heard in Nahariya, Shlomi
(21:49 , 08.01.06)
Rockets ignite blazes in Nahariya area
(21:01 , 08.01.06)

haaretz

22:10 Australian government donates 300,000 dollars to MDA (Itim)
22:04 Three IDF soldiers killed in battles with Hezbollah in south Lebanon (Haaretz)
21:52 Dozens of Israeli Arab lawyers in Haifa protest Lebanon offensive (Itim)
21:37 Globe and Mail: Only 32% of Canadians back PM Harper`s support of Israel (Reuters)
21:16 Canadian foreign minister calls Hezbollah `a cancer,` but criticizes Israel (Reuters)


677 posted on 08/01/2006 12:30:27 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sageb1

Wow! It must be hot!


678 posted on 08/01/2006 12:30:47 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
" The European Union will not add Hezbollah to its list of terrorist organizations, the EU's Finnish presidency said Tuesday.

"Given the sensitive situation where we are, I don't think this is something we will be acting on now,"

Now, is precisely the time to act.

679 posted on 08/01/2006 12:32:07 PM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; sageb1; ScaniaBoy

Very sad re the 3 IDF troops killed today.

Remember the 3 who were kidnapped also.

God bless them all.


680 posted on 08/01/2006 12:32:24 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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