8/1 Middle East Live Thread

Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/1/06 | BurbankKarl

[BurbankKarl]

The wife and father of kidnapped Israeli soldier Ehud Goldwasser, Karnit, holding a wedding photograph, and Shlomo Goldwasser arrive at Heathrow Airport in London, Monday July 31, 2006. Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers on July 12, triggering an Israeli offensive against Lebanon that has killed hundreds of people, mostly civilians.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I was beginning to think (and am still not sure if it's really not true) that we are Israel West in the eyes of Europe and the Middle East.

[olde north church]

I recall reading about a mutual assistance/support pact between Venezuala's Hugo "Melon Head" Chavez and Iran's Arajzmidajjikgijaadjjkjadd. It was noted that North Korea's "Lil' Elvis" had people go into Lebanon disguised as house servants of the Iranians.

How many people will deny we are on the hot outbreak of WW IV?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I think we are on the brink.

There is a bridge that still has to be crossed. It may be they've sent a few over it, but the cohort is still waiting to see.

[Skywarner]

" How many people will deny we are on the hot outbreak of WW IV?"

Just the Dims...

The period we live in now is so much like the late 1930's that it's stunning.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Put Che Guevarra on his T shirt and it would almost look like the Mexican Border!! :-)

[mtbopfuyn]

I was checking out the Israeli Security Council on Google Earth and happened to notice this streak of light (or bug or alien) just to the NE at 31*47'06.31 N35*11'36.25. What is it?

[del4hope]

All I can say is we have a "truly awesome" God. In this past month I have studied Obadiah and Joel. It amazes me how we can just turn the pages of the prophets' writings and see it all unfolding before our very eyes.

[MEG33]

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1675627/posts

Thanks Peach!

[ScaniaBoy]

Major split within the EU! The French not having it all their own way!


BRITAIN, GERMANY REJECT EU CEASE-FIRE DRAFT
By AP AND JPOST.COM STAFF
Aug. 1, 2006 16:53

Britain and Germany rejected a draft EU statement Tuesday calling for an immediate cease-fire in the fighting between Israel and Hizbullah, diplomats said.

Britain "can't accept" the draft under any circumstances, a senior British official said.

The two nations, at emergency EU foreign ministers' talks, offered an alternative draft calling for an eventual "cessation of hostilities" - with no time frame given.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

17:11 Halutz undergoes more tests at hospital for stomach pains after initial checkup (AP)

There are multiple systems in the digestion that can spasm with stress, and HURT. I bet he's stressed beaucoup. Time for the atropine drugs? Levin? Valium?

[del4hope]

Except that they are more than a few vying for the title of the new Hitler.

[olde north church]

We are truly living in an historic time with sides being chosen. Some out of common cause, others out of necessity. I believe the next 2 weeks will be of great importance. The Iranians await 8-22 with the same nervous, anticipation of a child awaiting Christmas. Will the wished for gift be received?

[rightinthemiddle]

BRITAIN, GERMANY REJECT EU CEASE-FIRE DRAFT

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Looks like Merkel liked her back rub.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I keep coming back to that bit from Joel myself...

And since Obadiah is short, here it is in NIV:

1 The vision of Obadiah.
This is what the Sovereign LORD says about Edom—
We have heard a message from the LORD :
An envoy was sent to the nations to say,
"Rise, and let us go against her for battle"-

2 "See, I will make you small among the nations;
you will be utterly despised.

3 The pride of your heart has deceived you,
you who live in the clefts of the rocks [a]
and make your home on the heights,
you who say to yourself,
'Who can bring me down to the ground?'

4 Though you soar like the eagle
and make your nest among the stars,
from there I will bring you down,"
declares the LORD.

5 "If thieves came to you,
if robbers in the night—
Oh, what a disaster awaits you—
would they not steal only as much as they wanted?
If grape pickers came to you,
would they not leave a few grapes?

6 But how Esau will be ransacked,
his hidden treasures pillaged!

7 All your allies will force you to the border;
your friends will deceive and overpower you;
those who eat your bread will set a trap for you, [b]
but you will not detect it.

8 "In that day," declares the LORD,
"will I not destroy the wise men of Edom,
men of understanding in the mountains of Esau?

9 Your warriors, O Teman, will be terrified,
and everyone in Esau's mountains
will be cut down in the slaughter.

10 Because of the violence against your brother Jacob,
you will be covered with shame;
you will be destroyed forever.

11 On the day you stood aloof
while strangers carried off his wealth
and foreigners entered his gates
and cast lots for Jerusalem,
you were like one of them.

12 You should not look down on your brother
in the day of his misfortune,
nor rejoice over the people of Judah
in the day of their destruction,
nor boast so much
in the day of their trouble.

13 You should not march through the gates of my people
in the day of their disaster,
nor look down on them in their calamity
in the day of their disaster,
nor seize their wealth
in the day of their disaster.

14 You should not wait at the crossroads
to cut down their fugitives,
nor hand over their survivors
in the day of their trouble.

15 "The day of the LORD is near
for all nations.
As you have done, it will be done to you;
your deeds will return upon your own head.

16 Just as you drank on my holy hill,
so all the nations will drink continually;
they will drink and drink
and be as if they had never been.

17 But on Mount Zion will be deliverance;
it will be holy,
and the house of Jacob
will possess its inheritance.

18 The house of Jacob will be a fire
and the house of Joseph a flame;
the house of Esau will be stubble,
and they will set it on fire and consume it.
There will be no survivors
from the house of Esau."
The LORD has spoken.

19 People from the Negev will occupy
the mountains of Esau,
and people from the foothills will possess
the land of the Philistines.
They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
and Benjamin will possess Gilead.

20 This company of Israelite exiles who are in Canaan
will possess the land as far as Zarephath;
the exiles from Jerusalem who are in Sepharad
will possess the towns of the Negev.

21 Deliverers will go up on [c] Mount Zion
to govern the mountains of Esau.
And the kingdom will be the LORD's.

Footnotes:

1. Obadiah 1:3 Or of Sela
2. Obadiah 1:7 The meaning of the Hebrew for this clause is uncertain
3. Obadiah 1:21 Or from

[AmericanInTokyo]

Map for the viewing audience of today's MIDEAST THREAD:

Including the Litani River.....

[mtbopfuyn]

I'm reposting this from yesterday because it's simply awesome. It's the before and after (7/22) pictures of the Hezbollah HQ in Beirut. The IDF, which the msm are claiming a total failure, nearly levelled that few block area. Check and uncheck the "Places" box item to see before vs. after. The bombed pic can also been seen at www.digitalglobe.com for those who don't have GE but you just can't grasp it all with just the after pic.

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/530230/an/0/page/1#530230

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Arutz

17:13 Aug-01-06
Fatah Supports Hizbullah
17:04 Aug-01-06
Intense Battle Continues in Southern Lebanon
16:55 Aug-01-06
Kidnapped Soldier's Parents Try to Arouse Britain
16:48 Aug-01-06
ABC Cancels Plans for Holocaust Programs
16:32 Aug-01-06
Two Opinions on How Long to Clean Out Hizbullah
16:22 Aug-01-06
IDF Strikes Rocket Launcher Cell

Ynet


Updates
UK cannot accept EU call for Lebanon ceasefire
(17:16 , 08.01.06)
MK Barakeh: Jewish entry to the Temple Mount will cause clashes
(16:51 , 08.01.06)

JP

Palestinians dub Egypt's president 'pig'
[ 01/08 17:00 - ISRAEL ]
Britain, Germany reject EU cease-fire draft
[ 01/08 16:53 - INTERNATIONAL ]
Rocket suspects identified and hit in Beit Hanoun
[ 01/08 16:41 updated 16:41 - ISRAEL ]
Youth killed in Gaza involved in Kassam launching
[ 01/08 16:26 updated 16:29 - ISRAEL ]

Haaretz

17:33 IDF denies claims it dropped pamphlets urging evacuation north of Litani (Reuters)
17:29 Ramon: 300 Hezbollah guerillas killed since start of fighting in Lebanon (Ch. 10)
17:11 Halutz undergoes more tests at hospital for stomach pains after initial checkup (AP)
17:09 Minister Ramon: IDF asked for a minimum 4 weeks to finish Hezbollah off (Ch. 10)
16:50 U.K., Germany reject EU draft calling for immediate cease-fire in Lebanon conflict (AP)
16:46 55 people killed in attacks in Iraq on Monday, including 23 Iraqi soldiers (Reuters)
16:26 Palestinians in Gaza lash out at Egyptian president in pro-Hezbollah march (AP)
16:00 IDF: 4 Hezbollah gunmen killed near south Lebanon village of Ayta a-Shab (Haaretz)