Was Qana Staged? (Banner of Sec. Rice had to be made well in advance)

NRO ^ | 7/31/2006 | Jonah Goldberg

[Uncledave]

Was Qana Staged? Cont'd [Jonah Goldberg]

A giant banner denouncing Rice and the "Qana massacre" might have been made a bit too quickly.

I don't want to get too far out ahead on this, but I know we've got a zillion printer-type folks among our readers. Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?

Update: From a reader:

"Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?"

Heck no. A designer could throw it together in probably 15 minutes or so, but the longest part would be the printing. Notice how deep the reds and blacks are - this means they didn't just bust it out. I wouldnt be surprised if that job itself (requiring special equipment, as it looks to be printed on canvas or nylon, not merely paper) took 6 hours simply to print.

Also, that puppy would be expensive.

Update II: From a reader:

Nope. Not possible in 2 hours to design, typeset, print, assemble and transport to the site. 24 hours if you're really good to do all the above. I say that as an career commercial artist of 18 years now.

Update III: From another reader:

called a close friend who has a very large printing company in NY with the question.  he called out to one of his technicians as to how long a color 30 foot banner would take to produce.  the response was that it would have to be done by a special machine and that machine would take "5 to 6 hours."     by the way, their rather enormous, state of the art (less than 6 months old) facility doesn't even have the equipment necessary to do it.  so make a guess as to what's available in a war-ravaged area...

 

[MHGinTN]

You left out removing the damaged Syrian missle truck, THEN blowing up the building and bussing in the pressHezziwhores.

[SunkenCiv]

embedded reporting means different things to different traitors, er, people:

MSNBC: Hezbollah Helped Qana, But 'No Evidence' It Was Launching Rockets
MSNBC-The Most/NewsBusters | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 07/31/2006 4:17:47 PM EDT by governsleastgovernsbest
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1675278/posts

[Cruz]

ping

[Jezebelle]

The Israelis should quit peppering the villages with leaflets. That way, the hezzies won't know what village to name on its propaganda posters or where to truck the long been dead bodies to.

[Jezebelle]

What other possible use could handicapped children be to terrorists but to serve Allah in this way? Since they're handicapped, they can't walk into a busy bus terminal or market area as homicide bombers, so why not use their corpses for camera fodder?

[Sarah]

'If some shop does that kind of work that fast, I'd sure like to know about it.'

Maybe the same shop that churns out obscure flags for the palestinians to burn as the need arises! (Mark Steyn has a hysterical column on these rare capabilities of the poverty striken arabs...)

[Sarah]

See my above post. I'll try to find the Steyn article on the subject.
Best, Sarah

[Sarah]

I found the reference, but it's from an archived Chicago Sun Times...Here's the quote:

I long ago lost count of the number of times I've switched on the TV and seen crazy guys jumping up and down in the street, torching the Stars and Stripes and yelling ''Death to the Great Satan!'' Or torching the Union Jack and yelling ''Death to the Original If Now Somewhat Arthritic And Semi-Retired Satan!'' But I never thought I'd switch on the TV and see the excitable young lads jumping up and down in Jakarta, Lahore, Aden, Hebron, etc., etc., torching the flag of Denmark.

Denmark! Even if you were overcome with a sudden urge to burn the Danish flag, where do you get one in a hurry in Gaza? Well, OK, that's easy: the nearest European Union Humanitarian Aid and Intifada-Funding Branch Office. But where do you get one in an obscure town on the Punjabi plain on a Thursday afternoon? If I had a sudden yen to burn the Yemeni or Sudanese flag on my village green, I haven't a clue how I'd get hold of one in this part of New Hampshire. Say what you like about the Islamic world, but they show tremendous initiative and energy and inventiveness, at least when it comes to threatening death to the infidels every 48 hours for one perceived offense or another. If only it could be channeled into, say, a small software company, what an economy they'd have.

[Sarah]

found the quote, see above post,
Had a hard time posting to your name, I thought it was Anital, not Anita One

[stlnative]

This was the likely process they used

check this out...

http://www.magicvinylprinting.com/

there is a video on the site also

[JennysCool]

Great Steyn! Thank you!

[stlnative]

http://www.magicvinylprinting.com/magic_vinyl_printing_in_action/magicvinylprintingvutek5300.wmv

This shows the huge inkjet like printing press for vinyl banners

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http://www.acebanner.com/making.htm

Digitized Banners

Dye-sublimation is one the techniques we use in digital banner-making. Images are created on a computer in various ways. We take the final designs and process them on our large format system which digitally prints the images in reverse. We then sublimate the image under heat and pressure. This is not a transfer. The dye becomes part of the fiber of the fabric and the result is a banner which can be washed and dry cleaned without harming the image. This process allows us to produce large photographic images even if only one copy is needed.

Inkjet printed banners are printed directly onto the fabric; usually a vinyl or plastic material. There are many applications for this method: the banners produced can be small enough to fit indoors, or large enough to cover the side of a building

[stlnative]

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[stlnative]

see post 153 for details on the type of printer/press that was most likely used.

[singfreedom]

I bet that sucker costs a mint!!! Would they have a market for such a thing in Beirut, Lebanon? I can't imagine that they would!

[stlnative]

If they have billboards Lebanon or Syria, someone has one these. Besides you don't buy them outright, the company finances the machines. If you don't make the payments they come an repo it.

I used to work for a printing company. The cost of this "printer" would be a lot less than a printing press.

[DustyMoment]

Which is pathetic considering things have been staged in the past

Sadly, a true fact.

[stlnative]

looks like one sells for $200,000.00

Googled:

VUTEk UltraVu® II 5330 Lebanon

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-33,GGLG:en&q=VUTEk+UltraVu%C2%AE+II+5330+Lebanon

[stlnative]

I am sorry the Vutek 5330 sells for $349,000.00

[bvw]

Also ... no survivors (even in OKC there were many survivors) ... no or very few bodies of men