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1 Kings 18:"21": And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Allah of the Koran is not the God of the bible. You can check it out yourself. The God of the bible tells of his laws and what it right and wrong for us.

The god of the Koran, has his own set of rules and they differ from the God of the bible. They can not be the same.

1 posted on 07/31/2006 1:33:43 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: tessalu
You need to put a barf alert on the story.

I'd say the Jews were the David while the Goliath were the muslims of the world.
2 posted on 07/31/2006 1:38:05 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: tessalu

Wrong! it's the Jewish David against the Satanic Muslim
Goliath.


3 posted on 07/31/2006 1:38:29 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: tessalu

The US stands against terrorism. How can aiding Israel in it's war against terrorists be considered a blow to our credibility?


4 posted on 07/31/2006 1:38:37 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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" Ever since the seizure of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah sparked an Israeli offensive in Lebanon..."

Offensive?????????? Hezbollah struck first. Israel struck second. Hezbollah struck offensively. Israel struck defensively!

5 posted on 07/31/2006 1:40:18 PM PDT by avacado
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To: tessalu

Can countries have such things as credibility?


6 posted on 07/31/2006 1:41:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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Arabs see the US refusal to press Israel, its ally, for a cease-fire as a clear bias toward the Jewish state and against Arabs. They also believe that US delivery of weapons to Israel makes the United States complicit in the deaths of civilians

But many Arabs say they think the United States has the equation backwards, that it is Israel’s occupation of Palestinian and Lebanese land, with US support, that fuels the conflict.

Hezbollah, emerging as the new champion of the Palestinians, has managed, for the most part, to close sectarian ranks and win the support of Sunni majorities in most Arab countries.

Arabs for the most part have celebrated Hezbollah’s attacks in Israel. “I was so happy,” Fatani, sitting at home in jeans watching Al-Jazeera, recalled feeling when she heard about Hezbollah strikes against Israel. “It was the first time in 50 years that Israelis feel what Palestinians and Lebanese have been going through.”

so what do we have here? where is the call for free and democratic arabia? where are the calls for freeing the Lebanese from the death grip of Hezbo, Assad and the Iranian mullahs? we have not yet seen based upon these statements an acceptance of the history of the last 50 years. add to that the Iraqi statements of earlier today castigating Israel and we have a complete picture of faded visions of the arabian greatness and islamic hegemony from days of yore.

7 posted on 07/31/2006 1:42:19 PM PDT by APRPEH (You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.)
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Just a pig in a poke here, but I'm guessing Faiza Saleh Ambah did not give the US much "credibility" long ago.


10 posted on 07/31/2006 1:43:13 PM PDT by pissant
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"Ever since the seizure of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah sparked an Israeli offensive in Lebanon,"

First if you are trying to say something do not LIE as you have done. It should read as follows:

"Ever since the coordinated attack on Israel by the terrorist in the south and north which resulted in the killing of 7 to 10 Israeli soldiers and the taking as hostages of three others the government of Israel has been conducting operations to free its soldiers and defeat the terrorist enemies of the people of the world.
11 posted on 07/31/2006 1:43:31 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: tessalu

The article is BS!

Israel is one of our few friends in the world. Stabbing them in the back will not make socialists and jihadists like us -- if anything, it will encourage their destructive impulses.

The problem with Islam is not the Koran per se. Their civilization didn't develop in the same fashion as the west.

Religion generally is a static process demanding unquestioning submission, while politics is a process offering participation, discussion, and lawmaking founded in consent.

Christian civilization got around this contradiction with the separation of Church and State. Christianity grew up alongside the Roman government. Jesus taught that one should "render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's." Augustine developed this idea in the City of God, and St. Gregory implemented the Pastoral Rule in the 5th century, imposing the duty of civil obedience upon the clergy. The idea persisted in medieval times with the distinction between regnum and sacerdotium.

Islam doesn't have this tradition. They grew up by plundering, raping, and killing the infidel. Sovereignty for them rests with Allah and his Prophet (pigs be upon him), and legal order for them is founded in divine command. Unlike the West, there is no entity called "the Mosque." Like the Leninists, Islam seeks to control the state without being a subject to the state.


12 posted on 07/31/2006 1:44:11 PM PDT by JHBowden (A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence. -- David Hume)
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“The Palestinian government was kidnapped and jailed, Palestinians were being starved by Israel, and the US did not object,”


Stupid reporters didn't have to globe trot to find sentiments like that. Portlandistan is full of idiots spouting that nonsense(in fact, a lot of the statements made at yesterdays pro-terrorist rally were very similar to some in this article). Go figure!!
15 posted on 07/31/2006 1:50:08 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: tessalu

Too bad we can't give covert aid like Iran.


16 posted on 07/31/2006 2:01:31 PM PDT by Brilliant
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A troubling article. If the "moderate" muslims are siding with terrorist organizations, then what many pundits have opined is truly coming to pass; a culture/religious war between Christianity/Judaism and Islam.

Given that the Palestinians aren't Arab, the support of muslims for the Palestinians is suspect. The Palestinians are muslim pawns. A handy reason for muslim anti-Semitism and hatred of the US.


17 posted on 07/31/2006 2:27:13 PM PDT by MarcusAurelious (Guns don't kill people. Delta Force kills people.)
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To: tessalu
I certainly don't need an insane Pakistani Muslim asshole questioning the credibility of America, because we aid Israel in defeating murderous overreaching freaking Islamists...

In my world -- Pakistan remains on the ultimate TARGET list...and is only a temporary halfassed untrustworthy ally...
Islamists can never be a trusted friend to a non Muslim --- never... The Koran specifically forbids that.


Semper Fi
20 posted on 07/31/2006 2:37:23 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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US credibility harmed by aid to Israel

Only in the eyes of terrorists and their appeasers. They shouldn't matter anyhow.

21 posted on 07/31/2006 2:39:15 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: tessalu

Death to terrorist supporters.


23 posted on 07/31/2006 3:10:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Surrender to Islam. Vote Democrat.)
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It's clear to me who has credibility. It is NOT the side that hides among civilians and fires on an enemy, forcing one side to ignore the attack and suffer growing casualties or to fire back and risk taking out innocent civilians along with the attackers.
The deaths of Lebanese civilians falls squarely on the backs of Hezboallah, cowardly little men driven by Jewish hatred and NOT by the land Israel possesses. Cowards that hide among civilians, Cowards that wear civilian clothing, cowards that posses not one admirable trait. Remember the Jenin "massacre"? The massacre that never happened. These animals hate Israel more than they love their own.
Jew hatred causes fools to write articles claiming Israel, (Population a bit over 6 million), is a "goliath" fighting a "david" this "david" is all of the ME, possessing 100s of millions of humans that hate Israel and lust for its destruction. Who's the David again?
Muslims still put the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" online and claim it's the truth, even though it's been thoroughly discredited many many times. I take it with a grain of salt when I hear the claims of muslims.I hope the innocent civilians in Lebanon stay safe, look to Hezboallah as far as that goes, not to Israel, Hezboallah are putting their lives in jeopardy
31 posted on 07/31/2006 4:10:10 PM PDT by MadLibDisease
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