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1 posted on 07/31/2006 12:29:38 PM PDT by veronica
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When Bush the First ran the Willie Horton ad, he ran it once. For the next ten years the Democrats kept pointing this ad out as racism, even though their once upon a time almost president ran the same ad against Michael Dukakis. Now who is making the fuss, the actor who says it once or the critics who never shut up. Who is, rather who are the de facto racists.


32 posted on 07/31/2006 12:42:48 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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You can always diagnose a statist. They want to control not only what people do but what they think and say.

Gibson expressed poor taste, bad judgment and worst morals; however, he did not commit a crime. Give some a little power and they are quick to forget a drunken driver but willing to give the maximum possible punishment to someone who expressed biased remarks while drunk.

Someone should remind Hitchens that Lysenko and Trotsky were friends. Hitchens wants a government sanctioned Lysenkoism to finally root out all speech crimes. Maybe not now but just watch.

35 posted on 07/31/2006 12:44:18 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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Just for everyones reminder He was picked up for a DUI wich IMO is the real crime here Lets not lose site of that


36 posted on 07/31/2006 12:45:19 PM PDT by al baby
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And it has been obvious for some time to the most meager intelligence that he is sick to his empty core with Jew-hatred.

This is not just proved by his twistedly homoerotic spank-movie The Passion of the Christ, even though that ghastly production did focus obsessively on the one passage in the one of the four Gospels that tries to convict the Jewish people en masse of the hysterical charge of Christ-killing or "deicide."


Okay, pot-kettle-black?

Seriously, if this guy saw The Passion as a "homoerotic spank-movie" than he is pretty "sick to his empty core" himself.
37 posted on 07/31/2006 12:45:52 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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That bad actor and worse director Mel Gibson

Chris Hitchens is another jack-ass that trashes Gibson's talent just because Gibson's personal life, politics, beliefs, and prejudices are screwed up. Patriot and Braveheart were excellent movies.

(Just donned Nomex and Kevlar.)

40 posted on 07/31/2006 12:46:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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This Gibson really screwed up, because now every liberal group in existence is going to do everything in their power to completely destroy him for the next 20 zillion years. He completely opened pandoras box. None of them will accept the fact that maybe Mel was in a complete self destructive mood when pulled over, judging by how he first said "My life is f***ed". I mean what is the worst thing he could have said to destroy his career? But it`s too late now. Sorry Mel, but you are not Hillary. Only Hillary gets to go on anti-Jew tirades, not to mention 99% of liberals in Hollywood who have yet to curse out one single solitary terror group instead of Israel. "Jews are the cause of all the wars in the world" Mel says that which is exactly what liberals say every single day.


41 posted on 07/31/2006 12:46:30 PM PDT by Screamname (Batman and Godzilla : When will they fight?)
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The piece's righteous rage would have been more convincing were Christopher Hitchens not sick to his empty core with Catholic-hatred.


42 posted on 07/31/2006 12:46:37 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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In a statement, Gibson says, "I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable.

"The arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person.

"I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry.

"I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse."

While Gibson does not elaborate on the "despicable" comments he made, entertainment website TMZ.com have obtained a police incident report, which alleges the Hollywood star made anti-Semitic comments towards arresting officers."

Christopher Hitchens says the statement is verbose and this other writer says he does not elaborate. I guess you can't please everybody.

I wonder what a Hitchens statement of remorse, apology and personal accountability for something awful that he's done would look like.

Cordially,

46 posted on 07/31/2006 12:47:23 PM PDT by Diamond
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Hitchens seems more upset about Mel's portrayal of Redcoats than his drunken remarks about Jews.
47 posted on 07/31/2006 12:47:35 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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Me thinks that both talented men have a kinship in alcohol abuse.

It seems that Hitchens may be ashamed of Gibson's alcohol affected personality in place of his own.


52 posted on 07/31/2006 12:48:12 PM PDT by HonestConservative ((It's SNOWING!))
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marking


56 posted on 07/31/2006 12:49:47 PM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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all the world's wars are begun by those of Semitic extraction

That's not what Mel said. Had he said that, he would have been closer to the truth. Hint: think of a certain religion founded by a certain Semite whose followers bow down to a chunk of meteorite...

60 posted on 07/31/2006 12:50:36 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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This from a bona-fide anti-Catholic bigot like Chrissy Hitchens?

MEGA YAWN.
61 posted on 07/31/2006 12:50:42 PM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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Some excerpts from Hitchens' article follow. I think they show Hitchens to be completely unhinged.

This is not just proved by his twistedly homoerotic spank-movie The Passion of the Christ, even though that ghastly production did focus obsessively on the one passage in the one of the four Gospels that tries to convict the Jewish people en masse of the hysterical charge of Christ-killing or "deicide." It is validated by his fealty to his earthly father, a crackpot who belongs to a Catholic splinter group of which our Mel is a member. This group more or less lives off the stench of medieval anti-Semitism.

At the time when The Passion of the Christ was being released, many nervous evangelical Christians tried to get the more horrifying bits of anti-Semitic incitement toned down. (The crazy scene where the rabbis demand the blood of Jesus on their own heads was taken out of subtitles, for example, but left as it was in Aramaic.)

63 posted on 07/31/2006 12:51:22 PM PDT by Stingray51
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Looks to me like some people are hoping to continue to create a division within FR by keeping these type of threads going.


67 posted on 07/31/2006 12:52:07 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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Starting to get real tired of seeing these Mel Gibson threads.


69 posted on 07/31/2006 12:52:34 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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Well, I've got no room to talk. Like Mel I have a DWI on my record too. I grown a lot since that 1978 incident in my misspent youth...I learned from it too as it cost me plenty in court fines and insurance premiums, plus a restricted license and embarrassment to my family. I believe Mel will learn too...it seems only if your name is "Kennedy" or "Bush," that you can somehow manage to cover up the incident (Bush for years, Kennedy seemingly for ever) and avoid mortification.
73 posted on 07/31/2006 12:53:02 PM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a pitchfork!)
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I think that stupid comments from a drunken Australian is far from the Jews' biggest problem right now. This kind of crap barely deserves press coverage.


74 posted on 07/31/2006 12:53:22 PM PDT by Kenton
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Everyone on this planet is a racist at one time or another (it's called the problem of evil).

It has nothing to do with whether you are or are not a racist at a given moment - it has to do with what you do with those attitudes/feelings/emotions.

Mel may have just had a bad day -drunk, of course - Nonetheless a bad day.

We can either chastise and move on - Or we can crucify him; which is it?

: )

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"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Go And Sin No More"

And if ya' do sin again - then repent...

It's all over with people... Move along... Keep it moving... Nothing to see here...

75 posted on 07/31/2006 12:53:34 PM PDT by chris_ab
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I can only imagine what Hitchens says when he's drunk. Oh wait he even says it when he's sober.


79 posted on 07/31/2006 12:54:33 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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