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Mel Gibson's Meltdown
Slate ^ | 07-31-06 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 07/31/2006 12:29:38 PM PDT by veronica

Edited on 07/31/2006 1:43:28 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I was just in the middle of writing a long and tedious essay, about how to tell a real anti-Semite from a person who too-loudly rejects the charge of anti-Semitism, when a near-perfect real-life example came to hand. That bad actor and worse director Mel Gibson, pulled over for the alleged offense of speeding and the further alleged offense of speeding under the influence, decided that he needed to demand of the arresting officer whether he was or was not Jewish and that he furthermore needed to impart the information that all the world's wars are begun by those of Semitic extraction.

Call me thin-skinned if you must, but I think that this qualifies. I also think that the difference between the blood-alcohol levels—and indeed the speed limits—that occasioned the booking are insufficient to explain the expletives (as Gibson has since claimed in a typically self-pitying and verbose statement put out by his publicist). One does not abruptly decide, between the first and second vodka, or the ticks of the indicator of velocity, that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are valid after all.

There's a lot to dislike about Gibson. He is given to furious tirades against homosexuals of the sort that make one wonder if he has some kind of subliminal or "unaddressed" problem. His vulgar and nasty movies, which also feature this prejudice, are additionally replete with the cheapest caricatures of the English.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: hitchens; invinoveritas; melgibson
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To: Clara Lou

the difference being?????


321 posted on 07/31/2006 5:15:25 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Domestic Church
I've also never known an alcoholic who didn't say absurd, nasty anti-semitic things.
Interesting. What, in your mind, causes drunks to berate Jews? The few/several I've known never brought up anything about Jews.
322 posted on 07/31/2006 5:16:16 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Peach

allegations? it is absolutely true that he is an anti-Semite (and a chip off the old block). I almost feel sorry for him.


323 posted on 07/31/2006 5:16:16 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: spectre

Why on earth does William Donahue try to defend Mel Gibson????? Bill should know better than that, and as for Ted Turner, he is a nasty rotten bigot who continues to hate devout Christians and Jews. If Donahue wants to turn the other cheek to Turner, he can do it - I won't! And I recall a fracas with Michael Savage on his show in which Savage went off the deep end and made some offensive comments. Has Bill forgiven that?


324 posted on 07/31/2006 5:19:14 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: beyond the sea

"complex?" Yes, after 2,000 years one does develop a complex. Thanks for the psychobabble!


325 posted on 07/31/2006 5:20:31 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Hint..if you want your post removed..YOU should hit the "abuse" on that reply number and explain why.

The Mods usually comply :)

sw

326 posted on 07/31/2006 5:21:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dodgers fan
The difference between a lie [an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive] and the utterances of someone who speaks what isn't true out of derangement or insanity? You really don't know the difference?
327 posted on 07/31/2006 5:22:06 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: American_Centurion

"whether dad was right?" Are you nuts? Gibson is a wacko - a chip off the old block.


328 posted on 07/31/2006 5:22:32 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Ransom was a lousy movie. Signs was a nutty movie.


329 posted on 07/31/2006 5:25:48 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: jocon307

He already has William Donahue apologizing for him. Bill should pick better fights than defending Gibson.


330 posted on 07/31/2006 5:28:47 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Clara Lou

What is your point? "My father never lied to me" - meaning, my father never told me lies about history. Oh, yes he did!


331 posted on 07/31/2006 5:29:58 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Dodgers fan

I'm not going to re-explain the comment.

It's clear if you understand wtf quotation marks are used for that I was commenting on a thought Mel might have had.

I'm not a pulitzer writer, but you are the third kneejerk reaction who posted a stupid reply. Either re-read my comment and study for context or read the rest of my posts on the thread.


332 posted on 07/31/2006 5:30:35 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Stashiu

Best said in 'Dumb and Dumber'--- "Loud-mouth soup"


333 posted on 07/31/2006 5:33:33 PM PDT by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: Dodgers fan

Since I don't know Hutton Gibson's mental state, I can't say you're wrong. But you could be.


334 posted on 07/31/2006 5:34:12 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: All

I can't believe people are arguing over this stuff.


335 posted on 07/31/2006 5:37:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: frogjerk
I think you are correct. If I got all stupid drunk and started spewing trash talk it wouldn't be about the Jews...It would probably be about the Boston Red Sox, liberals or IslamoNazis...

Exactly. That poison had to be in there in the first place in order to come out. If I got that drunk I'd no doubt spout all kinds of offensive nonsense but I am 100% it wouldn't be anti-semitic hate.

336 posted on 07/31/2006 5:37:26 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: American Quilter

And Hitchens was sober when he did it, too!


337 posted on 07/31/2006 5:39:45 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Clara Lou

I'm with you Clara Lou ... almost funny if not pathetic comment.


338 posted on 07/31/2006 5:42:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: presently no screen name

From what I've heard, there has been an allegation that an officer changed his report and left out Gibson's alleged anti-semetic remarks.

Has it been proven that Gibson really made the alleged remarks? If he made anti-semetic remarks, he cannot be legally punished for exercising free speech, even though it's offensive.

If it can't be proven that he made the anti-semetic remarks, why the condemnation? Until it is proven that Mel made anti-semetic remarks in his drunken state of arrest, these vicious attacks toward him from this very FR forum angers and astound me.


339 posted on 07/31/2006 5:44:52 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: Clara Lou

I don't know what was in their minds. I don't think they even knew fully as the alcoholic personality switch was thrown after a few sips. I was a child when I witnessed this sort of angry behavior repeatedly in alcoholic adults.


340 posted on 07/31/2006 6:04:03 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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