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ISRAEL'S OLMERT: NO CEASE-FIRE IN LEBANON
YAHOOOO via AP ^ | 7/31/06

Posted on 07/31/2006 9:43:50 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: meandog; pissant
Boy, that Reagan could walk on water!

The fact is trading arms for hostages was a bad policy, made necessary by a bad Congress, a Democrat controlled, pro-Communist one.

Bush is taking the fight to the Muslims and has liberated two of their nations and put them on the defensive.

Also, the fact that Iraqi oil will be on the market will be a blow to the real power behind Islam, the Saudi's.

Our troops in Iraq also are nice leverage against any attacks against Israel by Syria and Iran.

121 posted on 07/31/2006 2:26:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: jveritas
Exactly. Reagan's stand against Communism eventually freed millions of people, but he neglected the growing terrorist threat (as I'm sure he would have admitted, had he been able).

President Bush has freed millions and changed the entire dynamic of the ME. The effect of the "Bush Doctrine" can be seen in the muted, anti-Hezbollah response of Arab nations. And the shake up isn't done yet.

Interestingly (or not) leftist ideologues in the U.S. are the only ones overtly opposing Israel and therefore, supporting the terrorists......

122 posted on 07/31/2006 2:34:04 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: meandog

Troll alert.


123 posted on 07/31/2006 2:37:27 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: SJackson
Mainstream media once again shows how a slanted story, using posed pictures, distorts events. Shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theater effect?
 
Note: we are AT WAR but have become sissies and vulnerable to media attempts to impose their liberal views. America lost more people in the 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers than we have lost soldiers in yeas of war in Iraq. Yet  the liberals, including the Media and people like Ex-Marine John Murtha, are squealing like stuck pigs and demanding we withdraw our forces to prevent more casualties.
 
For focus, one bombing raid, on one night, on a German town in World War II killed 40,000 civilians - including women and children. Wars were fought to be won. Something the bleeding hearts prevent and the death of some 60 civilians - among whom the Hezbollah hide and operate and thus they the Hezbollah put in harm's way - create an anti-Israeli passion which is undeserved. Place the blame where it belongs - on who started this - yes, the Hezbollah. And who puts the civilians up front and center to be killed, yes, the Hezbollah.
 
Alan

Monday, July 31, 2006


Milking it?


Certainly, the photographs are distressing, and indeed they are meant to be. As this piece tells us:

Until recent years, images of civilian casualties in wars often took days to appear in newspapers, but now they can be captured and transmitted around the world to newspaper Web sites, where they are posted immediately, adding to the shock value that sketchy words by reporters often cannot capture. This happened again Sunday morning in the case of the Israeli air strike on the Lebanese village of Qana that left dozens dead, reportedly at least half of them children sleeping in their beds overnight.

The photos, taken by The Associated Press, Reuters, and others, showed bodies in the rubble, or being taken away; survivors digging or wailing…
But the photographers, it seems, are not too fussy about how they go about "adding to the shock value". These two sequences illustrate the extent to which photographers on the scene are prepared to ensure that the "shock value" is maximised.

In this first of the two sequences, we see a shot by Reuters and taken by Adnan Hajj, timed at 2:21 pm. It has the caption:

Rescuers pull the body of a toddler victim of an Israeli air raid on Qana that killed more than 60 people, the majority of them women and children, in south Lebanon, July 30, 2006.
Note the "rescue worker" in the foreground, complete with olive green military-style helmet and fluorescent jacket, with what appears to be a flack jacket underneath. His glasses, "designer stubble", blue tee-shirt and jeans make him quite a distinctive figure. Note also, he has a radio in his jacker pocket and he has bare hands, things which becomes relevant later.

The next shot in this sequence is credited to AP's Kevin Frayer. Timed at 4.09 pm, it shows the same "rescue" worker, and has this caption:

Lebanese Red Cross and Civil Defense workers carry the body of a small child covered in dust from the rubble of his home that was hit in an Israeli missile strike in the village of Qana, east of the port city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday. Lebanese Red Cross officials said 56 people died in the Israeli assault on the village, including 34 children. Rescuers dug through the debris to remove dozens of bodies.
This is horrific, but a scrutiny of the framing does suggest that the subject is offering the victim to the photographer.

Just in case you missed it, however, we get another view, courtesy of Reuter's Adnan Hajj, with a time given of 4:30 pm - some 20 minutes after the first shot. The caption reads:

A rescuer carries the body of a toddler victim of an Israeli air raid on Qana that killed more than 60 people, the majority of them women and children, in south Lebanon, July 30, 2006.
Interestingly, in this sequence, the pocket radio is missing. And, although the positioning of the child looks the same, the angle of the shot looks to be about ninety degrees from the first, but in each case, the "worker" is facing towards the camera. The shots are clearly posed.

But now, timed at 12:45 pm, an hour and twenty minutes before the child's body is pictured being pulled from the ruins, we get a picture from AP's Kevin Frayer of the same child's body being paraded by our ubiquitous helmeted rescue worker.

Lebanese Red Cross and Civil Defense workers carry the body of a small child covered in dust from the rubble of his home that was hit in an Israeli missile strike in the village of Qana, east of the port city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday, July 30, 2006. Lebanese Red Cross officials said 56 people died in the Israeli assault on the village, including 34 children. Rescuers dug through the debris to remove dozens of bodies.
At 12.53 pm, after an interval of eight minutes, Frayer photographs the child's body again, from a different angle. The caption is the same. This time, though, our helmeted worker is showing some distress, which was absent in the previous photograph.

The photographs show the characters moving down the hill, with little distance between the scenes, which suggest that they have been taken sequentially and spontaneously. But they have not. The eight minute interval has allowed a crowd to gather around "green helmet". Furthermore, "orange jacket" has switched from left to right. Note also the tee-shirted man in the centre of the picture.

Then, timed at 1:01 pm, eight minutes on, we get another picture from Frayer. Once again, the caption is the same but this time the child's body is being paraded aloft by our ubiquitous helmeted rescue worker, but the tee-shirted character had moved from centre to right and is taking his turn to displaying his emotion to the camera. The UN soldier in the background has turned away, confirming a time lapse. The scene is clearly staged, as have been those preceding it.

Next, we have the second of the two sequences, the first shot of which, timed at 7.21 am shows a dead girl in an ambulance. Taken by AP, the caption reads:

Among others, the body of a child recovered under the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli war plane missiles at the village of Qana near the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, is placed in an ambulance Sunday July 30.
In the next frame, we have the same girl, this time apparently being placed in the ambulance. Also taken by AP,this time by Mohammed Zaatari the caption here reads:

A Lebanese rescuer carries the body of a young girl recovered from under the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli warplane missiles at the village of Qana, near the southern city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday, July 30, 2006. Dozens of civilians, including many children, were killed Sunday in an Israeli airstrike that flattened houses in this southern Lebanon village - the deadliest attack in 19 days of fighting.
Intriguingly, though, the dateline given is 10.25 am, three hours after she has already been photographed in the ambulance.

Also from AP's Nasser Nasser, we see the same worker, showing obvious distress, carrying the same girl. But now he is wearing his fluorescent jacket and helmet and has acquired latex gloves. He has also got his radio back. The photograph is timed at 10.44 pm and the caption reads:

A civil defense worker carries the body of Lebanese child recovered from the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by an Israeli airstrike at the village of Qana near the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday, July 30, 2006. Israeli missiles struck this southern Lebanese village early Sunday, flattening houses on top of sleeping residents. The Lebanese Red Cross said the airstrike, in which at least 34 children were killed, pushed the overall Lebanese death toll to more than 500.
Here we are now, same "worker" and same girl, but this time it is done for the benefit of EPA, the photographer, Mohamed Messara, the worker rushing towards a uniformed Red Cross worker. This caption (without a time) reads:

A rescue worker carries the body of a Lebanese girl after an Israeli air strike on the village of Qana, east of the southern port city of Tyre, on Sunday 30 July 2006. At least 51 people were killed, many of them children, and several others wounded in the raid Sunday, witnesses and rescue workers said.
But now, for the benefit of AFP, the photgraph taken by Nicolas Asfouri, we have the same unfortunate child being handled by another worker, the original worker showing in the background, having passed the casualty on. The timing of the photograph is 7.16 pm and the caption reads:

A rescue worker puts the body of a dead girl on a gurney after Israeli air strikes on the southern Lebanese village of Qana. Israel agreed to temporarily halt air strikes in south Lebanon a day after 52 people were killed, many of them sleeping children, when Israeli warplanes bombarded the Lebanese village of Qana, triggering global outrage and warnings of retribution for alleged "war crimes".
Remember, however, earlier in the sequence, the girl is being carried to the ambulance, by the other worker, sans jacket, helmet and gloves.

Fiunally, in this sequence, we get another shot from AP's Nasser Nasser, again without a timing but with this caption:

A civil defence worker carries a body of a young Lebanese child recovered from the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli war plane missiles at the village of Qana near the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday, July 30, 2006.
Whatever else, the event in Qana was a human tragedy. But the photographs do not show it honestly. Rather, they have been staged for effect, exploiting the victims in an unwholesome manner. In so doing, they are no longer news photographs - they are propaganda. And, whoever said the camera cannot lie forgot that photographers can and do. Those lies have spread throughout the world by now and will be in this morning's newspapers, accepted as real by the millions who view them.

The profession of photo-journalism thereby is sadly diminished by them, and the trust in those who took them and in those who carried them is misplaced. Truly, we are dealing with loathesome creatures.

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124 posted on 07/31/2006 2:56:31 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: RaceBannon

"Truly, we are dealing with loathesome creatures."

Indeed!


125 posted on 07/31/2006 3:08:08 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Israel called for a halt to airstrikes. This gave Hizbollah the opoortunity to move things around. This also gave Israel the opportunity to see where Hizbollah was realigning.



Excellent!!!


126 posted on 07/31/2006 3:15:49 PM PDT by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: areafiftyone

Excellent!


127 posted on 07/31/2006 3:26:14 PM PDT by Modok
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To: GreenOgre

"Israel called for a halt to airstrikes. This gave Hizbollah the opoortunity to move things around. This also gave Israel the opportunity to see where Hizbollah was realigning. "

very excellent! Israelis are experts at studying those animals


128 posted on 07/31/2006 4:25:11 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: fortheDeclaration
The same Reagan who after the Marines were murdered, fled with his tail between his legs.

Funny how this lie gets on so-called "conservative" websites as it once was exclusive to the leftists in probing for chinks in a great man's marble image.
Again, if you'll do the research, you will find that the Marines in Lebanon at the time were scheduled to leave anyway. It made no sense to keep the batallion there when it was no longer effective and no one could discern "good guy" Christians from terrorists. Besides, at the time of Reagan, we had a 660-ship Navy and there was a full amphibious task force off the coast along with battleships USS Iowa and USS New Jersey (one of which heaved a salvo of 16-inch projectiles, each weighing what a Toyota truck does, at Hesbollah to blow your "tail between legs" theory out of the water). Nope, Reagan never backed down from a scrap, smoked dope, got arrested for DUI, or shirked his duty with his Air National Guard unit by going out of state to campaign and party with an Alabama politician during the country's need.

129 posted on 07/31/2006 4:28:23 PM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a pitchfork!)
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To: pissant
I think its true...about a month ago the U.S. developed global air superiority,In the form of our new sat system .

The jews have been patiently waiting for its completion and testing.Bush gave 'm a green light after we splashed that N.K. icbm.Then condi and bush got a little headdy and publicly told the jews to kick ass...oops.

Now they are both back to "talking the peace road"..

I expect the dollar to jump soon it will be years before any other country can challenge our sat system.

We can fry the guidance out of anything flying....

Maybe even cook the brains of certain unstable undesirables.

Changes everything.
130 posted on 07/31/2006 4:29:59 PM PDT by Therapsid (Every other weekend however i dilligently support dangerous fantasy)
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To: meandog
Nope, Reagan never backed down from a scrap, smoked dope, got arrested for DUI, or shirked his duty with his Air National Guard unit by going out of state to campaign and party with an Alabama politician during the country's need.

Have you ever considered even TRYING to hide the fact that you're a liberal, meanpuppy?

You sound like an NY Times/CBS promotion packet.

(They don't care about the truth either, Molly).

131 posted on 07/31/2006 6:35:23 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Alouette

Often in my life I have pondered the Holocaust. Pondered the scenes of a people quietly walking to their death and wondered, "Why?"


This, put that in perspective:

20:03 Olmert: We should be ready for pain, tears and blood (Haaretz)


132 posted on 07/31/2006 7:10:12 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: meandog
He was the one who crossed Qaddafi's "Line of Death" and emasculated Libya's military force.

Qaddafi's "Line of Death" was in international waters. Navigating international waters is something any president would do. BFD. As far as "emasculating Libya's military force", I believe we sunk a couple of ships and we hit some radar. BFD again.

He was the one who slyly outsmarted the Ayatollah and Saddam and kept them off balance killing each other in the Iraq-Iran war while sending the money he got from sales of arms to both to Nicaraguan freedom fighters to beat back communism.

Iran and Iraq had been fighting for years. Nothing new there. However I will give Reagan an "A+" for what he did in Central America...and it is smart of GW to use Reagan's former point man in C.A. John Negroponte to head the CIA.

Bush's ME policy has yet to materialize as we are in both Iraq and Afghanistan with our soldiers fighting terror everyday...In retrospect, Reagan, IMHO, would have conjured up some sort of scenario where Iraq was fighting Afghanistan over the rights to Iran's oil, with thousands of Islamists dying, and we were getting the war profits by selling all of them arms for oil!

You're kidding, right? Your scenario reads like pulp fiction.

133 posted on 07/31/2006 8:15:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: meandog; kenavi

That's a meaningful answer? LOL!

134 posted on 07/31/2006 8:19:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: meandog
I was quite disappointed by Dr. Rice's "Neville Chamberlain Impersonation". Hopefully it was only a ruse to buy Israel more time to finish off the Hezbos.
135 posted on 07/31/2006 10:24:34 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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To: silentknight

I have a feeling this war will go on for a long time. Hopefully until Hezbollah is wiped out.


136 posted on 08/01/2006 11:26:31 AM PDT by Palladin (Ad in Hezbollah Herald: Human Shields wanted. Free housing.)
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To: meandog

It wasn't Reagan, it was Caspar Weinberger who called off the attacks on the Bekaa Valley and Hezbollah in Lebanon. This as per Ollie North's "War Stories" last Sunday evening. But since when does the SecDef overrule the President?

One has to wonder how far advanced Reagan's Alzheimer's disease was at this point, and if he was lied to frequently by Cabinet members.

We have yet to get the satisfaction of a repisal for the Hezbollah massacre of 200+ Marines.

Perhaps Israel is our surrogate in settling this old matter.


137 posted on 08/01/2006 11:33:32 AM PDT by Palladin (Ad in Hezbollah Herald: Human Shields wanted. Free housing.)
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To: Palladin
It wasn't Reagan, it was Caspar Weinberger who called off the attacks on the Bekaa Valley and Hezbollah in Lebanon. This as per Ollie North's "War Stories" last Sunday evening. But since when does the SecDef overrule the President? One has to wonder how far advanced Reagan's Alzheimer's disease was at this point, and if he was lied to frequently by Cabinet members.

Reagan was a big believer in delegating authority. "Pick good people, allow them room and trust them to do the job well, and they'll show you what they can do, and will make you proud," he said. As have noted, the Marines in Lebanon were scheduled to leave anyway before the attack (probably at Cap's behest) so Reagan was probably okay with the decision to pull them afterwards. Reagan also was extremely loyal and backed up people who worked for him so that's why he took responsibility when the attack happened. Really, the only one who ever lied to him was VEEP George Herbert Walker Bush. He lied about his Texas buddy, Rep. Jim Wright, in tellng Reagan that he wouldn't run to replace House Speaker Tip O'Neill in 1987 when he knew he would.

138 posted on 08/01/2006 12:15:16 PM PDT by meandog (While Clinton isn't fit even to scrape Reagan's shoes, Bush will never fill them!)
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