Omer Pesachov, 5 years old, killed with his grandmother last week when a Hezbollah rocket hit their house in Meron.
Do you remember this photo? Probably not, the Israeli media did not make a soap opera out of it.
Posted on 07/30/2006 2:04:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar
IMO, you made a mistake. They set you up. "They" being (1) our modern Oprah-esque social senses and media that go for these over-the-top extreme heart tugging sentinmental stage-plays and (2) Hezbollah.
That is a despicable statement. And I will note that the post I most strenuously objected to was removed by the mods, so I am pleased they agreed with me.
And given your posts over this matter, we have nothing to discuss. Most of us understand fully why Wolfstar posted those photographs; it's lamentable that you seemingly do not.
I understand that, at best read, Wolfstar got trapped by the stageplay Hezbollah and their allies set-up.
Regardless of whether or not the stage was set by Hezbollah, a lot of us can grieve for children who have been used by jihadists and killed.
And now, given the absolutely disgusting statements you've made about a freeper I respect, I'd appreciate it if you would not post to me.
Don`t think either of us were there, but, Israel bombed the town, (we`ve all seen the pictures), the building was hit, it fell down, the kids are dead, and the true believers, that NEVER blame Israel foe anything including the attacks on the USS Liberty, are all working overtime.
Suppose this is another one of those times we shouldn`t believe our lying eyes.
Omer Pesachov, 5 years old, killed with his grandmother last week when a Hezbollah rocket hit their house in Meron.
Do you remember this photo? Probably not, the Israeli media did not make a soap opera out of it.
It is scary stuff, especially the pictures I've looked at of 3,000 people being slaughtered in the World Trade Center and in the airplanes that were used as terrorist bombs.
We seem to forget the corpses buried in NYC, the Pentagon and the field in Pennsylvania. It's cruel, IMHO, how soon American's forgot what these evil people can do to our Country, and how 9/11 is just a passing memory.
Obviously, you weren't as bad as the rest of us "baby killers" were! You can always take another shot at it. I'm sure they're riding this thread for additional input from us dastardly FReepers. LOL!
We should definitely track down the true identities of those freepers
Mods don't allow posting of threads from Kos, but doesn't a threat to stalk specific FReepers constitute a news item?
The Hezbollah didn't have anything to do with 9/11, either. Nor did they have anything to do with Beslan. The Hezbollah is actually more than just Shia Muslims or Sunni Muslims or even just Muslims. It's also got Marronite Christians and Druse members, groups which make up at least 30% of the population. According to a poll released by the "Beirut Center for Research and Information" on 26 July during 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, 87 percent of Lebanese support Hezbollah's fight with Israel, a rise of 29 percent on a similar poll conducted in February. More striking, however, is the level of support for Hezbollah's resistance from non-Shiite communities. Eighty percent of Christians polled supported Hezbollah along with 80 percent of Druze and 89 percent of Sunnis. So it's no longer about Islam, for the people of Lebanon. It's about being Lebanese and being attacked for being in Lebanon.
Terrorism is a tactic. It's been used by people for centuries. All terrorists are not united in their goals - only in their tactics. The Tamil Tigers are a terrorist group, too, but they didn't have anything to do with 9/11, and they don't give a toss about Islam. Just because an organization is composed of terrorists does not mean they are affiliated with Al Qaida.
If a group that uses terrorism locates itself in your country, does that make all the residents members of that group? The history of the Balkans for the past two hundred years is the story of one terrorist group after another, fighting others across borders, while terrorizing the local populations. The Congo, Liberia, Uganda - all of these countries have had major wars where internal groups of terrorists were paralyzing local citizens, who were powerless to control them, and were waging war on their neighbors. Remember when the IRA was a terrorist group, as opposed to a political party? Were all the Irish citizens terrorists because the IRA was located in their country?
Simply invoking the deaths of 9/11 in this discussion is almost worse than no response at all. It's not connected to what happened in Cana, and to simply respond "9/11" seems to be a rhetocial equivalent of a trump card, designed to shut people up. We all suffered a horrible blow on 9/11. Why should that event make us more callous towards the suffering of innocent people, instead of more sympathetic?
Here are two websites that show the way that Hezbollah is exploiting the deaths of Lebanese non-combatants. This is truly despicable:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html
Post it, please.
There are no bigger things to worry about right now than who is carrying the children. These child-carriers probably are Hizbollah and were directly responsible for their deaths. They are the key to the whole Qana tragedy.
I hope that the man in the green helmet, at least, is being surveilled carefully and will receive justice soon.
Bvw, you most definitely are NOT right. Your blind hatred is precisely what's wrong here and elsewhere. There is nothing, absolutely nothing that aids the enemy in asking for prayer for the souls of dead children, no matter whose children they are, or in using photographs widely available via legitimate news sources.
In fact, if memory serves, I did a photo thread for the children of Beslan. I'd done a graphic photo thread on the victims of the 9/11/01 terror attacks. I am a firm believer -- very firm believer -- in pulling back the veil to reveal the true human costs of war. I've been among those disgusted with how our own news media has soft-pedaled images of the 9/11/01 attacks.
I made it quite clear that this thread is not about placing blame (there are plenty of threads available to do that), but about pausing for just a moment to express compassion for the loss of babies and young children. When we can no longer do that, we have lost something far more precious than our lives and our freedom. We have lost our humanity.
I am no peacenick nor an apologist for radical Islam. I want to see the Islamofacist movement crushed utterly wherever it exists in this world. But I'll be damned if I cross a line into such hatred and venom that the deaths of small children -- Israeli, Lebanese, American, Russian, British, any nationality -- will fail to touch my heart.
Judging by the majority of posts on this thread, few here on FR either understood my point or simply didn't agree with it. That's what discussion is for, to bring such issues out into the light of day -- frankly, where they reveal who and what we are as a people. I tried my best to respond to most with kindness and understanding, and to a few (such as yourself) with the dismissiveness they deserved.
Although I can't say I'm surprised, I must say the cold-heartedness expressed by so many on this thread is truly stunning. The thread is filled with defensive rationales for how the tragedy could not be what it seemed. Was the Qaran tragedy a set up? Maybe. Perhaps likely. The thread also has a number of posts which say the person simply does not care about the deaths of these children. Some people even expressed a degree of pleasure because the kids are dead -- because they are Muslim and would grow up to be suicide bombers. In many Muslim homes, the exact same thing is said when Israeli and/or American children are killed.
And so it goes...
Do such tragedies happen in war? Yes, of course! I detest so-called precision warfare, preferring to get it on furiously so as to end it totally and as fast as possible. Those who wage guerrilla warfare -- which is what the Islamofacists are doing around the world -- love indecision in their enemies. I think it is a mistake for us and for Israel to wage a "soft" war. But those are the mistakes of the adults. The small children are innocent.
So again, this thread was not intended for such discussions. There are plenty of other threads and plenty of time for such discussions. The question examined in this thread is actually much larger than the war in the Middle East, because it examines our own humanity.
Strange, no men to be found in the building.
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