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To: Virginia-American
The evidence I posted shows that the alleged designer is not a good engineer.

Do you realize how embarrassingly insane that statement is? Step back and consider the complexity in this world, in a mere flagellum, in your thoughts, in human interaction, in photosynthesis, in the way a wound heals, and so on. And you are so bold to say that it's badly done?

286 posted on 08/01/2006 1:53:02 PM PDT by Theo ("Scientists" believe in both evolution and man-caused global warming. They're wrong in both cases.)
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To: Theo
Me: The evidence I posted shows that the alleged designer is not a good engineer.

Theo: Do you realize how embarrassingly insane that statement is? Step back and consider the complexity in this world, in a mere flagellum, in your thoughts, in human interaction, in photosynthesis, in the way a wound heals, and so on

I didn't say it's all badly done; I merely showed an example of poor engineering. Much of life is, obviously, very intricate and "ingenious". But not all, not by a long shot.

And I see nothing embarrassing or insane here. If we can detect "design", we can detect good and bad design.

An analogy to the recurrent laryngeal nerve (RLN): You're building a house. One electrician wants to run a wire directly from the pushbutton by the front door to the chimes. Another one wants the wire to go across the basement and loop around the furnace first. I don't know squat about architecture or electrical wiring, but I have enough common sense to not hire the second electrician.

The RLN is evidence for evolution, not purposeful, "intelligent" design.

288 posted on 08/01/2006 2:17:29 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Theo
Step back and consider the complexity in this world, in a mere flagellum, in your thoughts, in human interaction, in photosynthesis, in the way a wound heals, and so on. And you are so bold to say that it's badly done?

"Bad" is relative, but it's clearly suboptimal, especially for an allegedly omnipotent and omniescent creator. Positing a non-omnipotent creator gets around some of these issues, but that doesn't seem to be popular.

305 posted on 08/02/2006 6:20:29 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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