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Israel: Hezbollah Responsible For Lebanon Qana Civilian Deaths
The Israel News Agency ^ | July 30, 2006 | Joel Leyden

Posted on 07/30/2006 6:25:36 AM PDT by IsraelBeach

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To: Bobalu

I agree. Time to put them all on notice. No more Mr. Nice Guy.


41 posted on 07/30/2006 5:40:33 PM PDT by pctech
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42 posted on 07/30/2006 6:21:43 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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43 posted on 07/30/2006 6:31:22 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: IsraelBeach

Interesting how so few people seemed to care about deliberate attacks against children like these (from Wikipedia):

"War of the Cities"

Toward the end of the war, the land conflict regressed into stalemate largely because neither side had enough self-propelled artillery or airpower to support ground advances.

The relatively professional Iraqi armed forces could not make headway against the far more numerous Iranian infantry. The Iranians were outmatched in towed and self-propelled artillery, which left their tanks and troops vulnerable. What followed was a blood bath with the Iranians substituting infantry for artillery. Both sides turned to more brutal weapons and tactics.

Iraq's air force soon began strategic bombing against Iranian cities, chiefly Tehran, starting in 1985. In response to these attacks, Iran began launching SS-1 "Scud" missiles against Baghdad. Iraq did not respond in kind against Tehran until early 1988, able to deploy only air raids against the Iranian capital up until that point. In October 1986, Iraqi aircraft attacked civilian passenger trains and aircraft, including an Iran Air Boeing 737 airliner unloading passengers at Shiraz International Airport. 34 elementary and high schools were attacked by Iraqi warplanes in 1986 alone, killing hundreds of children. [12]

In retaliation for the successful Iranian Karbala-5 operation in the fronts, during the course of 42 days, Iraq attacked 65 cities in 226 sorties, bombing civilian neighborhoods. Eight Iranian cities came under the attack from Iraqi missiles. Sixty-five children were killed during bombings in an elementary school in Borujerd alone. These events became known as "the war of the cities". [13]

The war saw the use of chemical weapons, especially mustard gas and sarin, by Iraq. International antipathy to the Tehran regime meant Iraq suffered few repercussions in spite of these attacks. After the war, the UN eventually condemned Iraq for using chemical weapons against Iran. Chemical weapons had not previously been widely used in any major war since the Second Italo-Abyssinian War.

With foreign assistance, Iraq financed the purchase of more technologically advanced weapons, and built a more-modern, well-trained armed forces. After setbacks on the battlefield, it offered to return to the 1975 border. Iran was internationally isolated and facing rising public discontent. Finally, a cease-fire was agreed on August 20, 1988.


44 posted on 07/30/2006 6:33:03 PM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: IsraelBeach
Charles Krauthammer's thinking is good, very very good. I wish more people would listen to him, but we have very little chance with the mindset of the current MSM. The scenes form Lebanon are sensational, and that is what sells. People are too lazy to see beyond the propaganda. We are loosing the PR campaign.
45 posted on 07/30/2006 7:37:42 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: IsraelBeach

Libs are confused and beside themselves.

An analogy:

You and your family live in a house, beside a family that insists on entering your yard, killing and kidnapping a child now and then, and shooting missiles into your home.

Knowing that the family next door has children, the insurmountable moral question for Liberals is: What do you do?

Any Conservative knows the answer.

To save your family and your own children, you will put the monsters next door to death.

And if their innocent children should die as a result, although it is tragic and you will feel terrible, you will have no remorse whatsoever concerning your decision to strike back with deadly force.

Only a morally-confused, scum-sucking Al Qaeda Times subscribing Liberal moron would need to think beyond a nanosecond for the correct answer.


46 posted on 07/30/2006 9:49:51 PM PDT by Stallone (Mainstream Media is dead. I helped kill it.)
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47 posted on 07/31/2006 12:31:14 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: kinghorse
Diablolical, cynical, politically driven, no holds barred barbarity. How do you counter this?

Ignore it and keep bombing.

48 posted on 07/31/2006 8:51:57 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: GeronL

I agree-it's an excellent article, and fortunately we get some REAL news at Free Republic!


49 posted on 07/31/2006 8:54:38 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: IsraelBeach

With the exception of 9-11 which was al Qaeda, the Hezzies are second in deaths of Americans due to terrorism.

I hope the US is giving every possible assistance to the IDF in their attempt of eradicating hezbollah.


50 posted on 07/31/2006 9:15:26 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IsraelBeach

If the bldg. didn't fall until 8 HOURS later, then WHY were all those cxhildren STILL in the bldg??? Didn't the hezzies try to SAVE THE CHILDREN??? Are there videos of the hezzies desparately digging to get the children out ALIVE or did they wait until the children were dead???


51 posted on 07/31/2006 9:20:00 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: IsraelBeach
Mainstream media once again shows how a slanted story, using posed pictures, distorts events. Shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theater effect?
 
Note: we are AT WAR but have become sissies and vulnerable to media attempts to impose their liberal views. America lost more people in the 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers than we have lost soldiers in yeas of war in Iraq. Yet  the liberals, including the Media and people like Ex-Marine John Murtha, are squealing like stuck pigs and demanding we withdraw our forces to prevent more casualties.
 
For focus, one bombing raid, on one night, on a German town in World War II killed 40,000 civilians - including women and children. Wars were fought to be won. Something the bleeding hearts prevent and the death of some 60 civilians - among whom the Hezbollah hide and operate and thus they the Hezbollah put in harm's way - create an anti-Israeli passion which is undeserved. Place the blame where it belongs - on who started this - yes, the Hezbollah. And who puts the civilians up front and center to be killed, yes, the Hezbollah.
 
Alan

Monday, July 31, 2006


Milking it?


Certainly, the photographs are distressing, and indeed they are meant to be. As this piece tells us:

Until recent years, images of civilian casualties in wars often took days to appear in newspapers, but now they can be captured and transmitted around the world to newspaper Web sites, where they are posted immediately, adding to the shock value that sketchy words by reporters often cannot capture. This happened again Sunday morning in the case of the Israeli air strike on the Lebanese village of Qana that left dozens dead, reportedly at least half of them children sleeping in their beds overnight.

The photos, taken by The Associated Press, Reuters, and others, showed bodies in the rubble, or being taken away; survivors digging or wailing…
But the photographers, it seems, are not too fussy about how they go about "adding to the shock value". These two sequences illustrate the extent to which photographers on the scene are prepared to ensure that the "shock value" is maximised.

In this first of the two sequences, we see a shot by Reuters and taken by Adnan Hajj, timed at 2:21 pm. It has the caption:

Rescuers pull the body of a toddler victim of an Israeli air raid on Qana that killed more than 60 people, the majority of them women and children, in south Lebanon, July 30, 2006.
Note the "rescue worker" in the foreground, complete with olive green military-style helmet and fluorescent jacket, with what appears to be a flack jacket underneath. His glasses, "designer stubble", blue tee-shirt and jeans make him quite a distinctive figure. Note also, he has a radio in his jacker pocket and he has bare hands, things which becomes relevant later.

The next shot in this sequence is credited to AP's Kevin Frayer. Timed at 4.09 pm, it shows the same "rescue" worker, and has this caption:

Lebanese Red Cross and Civil Defense workers carry the body of a small child covered in dust from the rubble of his home that was hit in an Israeli missile strike in the village of Qana, east of the port city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday. Lebanese Red Cross officials said 56 people died in the Israeli assault on the village, including 34 children. Rescuers dug through the debris to remove dozens of bodies.
This is horrific, but a scrutiny of the framing does suggest that the subject is offering the victim to the photographer.

Just in case you missed it, however, we get another view, courtesy of Reuter's Adnan Hajj, with a time given of 4:30 pm - some 20 minutes after the first shot. The caption reads:

A rescuer carries the body of a toddler victim of an Israeli air raid on Qana that killed more than 60 people, the majority of them women and children, in south Lebanon, July 30, 2006.
Interestingly, in this sequence, the pocket radio is missing. And, although the positioning of the child looks the same, the angle of the shot looks to be about ninety degrees from the first, but in each case, the "worker" is facing towards the camera. The shots are clearly posed.

But now, timed at 12:45 pm, an hour and twenty minutes before the child's body is pictured being pulled from the ruins, we get a picture from AP's Kevin Frayer of the same child's body being paraded by our ubiquitous helmeted rescue worker.

Lebanese Red Cross and Civil Defense workers carry the body of a small child covered in dust from the rubble of his home that was hit in an Israeli missile strike in the village of Qana, east of the port city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday, July 30, 2006. Lebanese Red Cross officials said 56 people died in the Israeli assault on the village, including 34 children. Rescuers dug through the debris to remove dozens of bodies.
At 12.53 pm, after an interval of eight minutes, Frayer photographs the child's body again, from a different angle. The caption is the same. This time, though, our helmeted worker is showing some distress, which was absent in the previous photograph.

The photographs show the characters moving down the hill, with little distance between the scenes, which suggest that they have been taken sequentially and spontaneously. But they have not. The eight minute interval has allowed a crowd to gather around "green helmet". Furthermore, "orange jacket" has switched from left to right. Note also the tee-shirted man in the centre of the picture.

Then, timed at 1:01 pm, eight minutes on, we get another picture from Frayer. Once again, the caption is the same but this time the child's body is being paraded aloft by our ubiquitous helmeted rescue worker, but the tee-shirted character had moved from centre to right and is taking his turn to displaying his emotion to the camera. The UN soldier in the background has turned away, confirming a time lapse. The scene is clearly staged, as have been those preceding it.

Next, we have the second of the two sequences, the first shot of which, timed at 7.21 am shows a dead girl in an ambulance. Taken by AP, the caption reads:

Among others, the body of a child recovered under the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli war plane missiles at the village of Qana near the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, is placed in an ambulance Sunday July 30.
In the next frame, we have the same girl, this time apparently being placed in the ambulance. Also taken by AP,this time by Mohammed Zaatari the caption here reads:

A Lebanese rescuer carries the body of a young girl recovered from under the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli warplane missiles at the village of Qana, near the southern city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday, July 30, 2006. Dozens of civilians, including many children, were killed Sunday in an Israeli airstrike that flattened houses in this southern Lebanon village - the deadliest attack in 19 days of fighting.
Intriguingly, though, the dateline given is 10.25 am, three hours after she has already been photographed in the ambulance.

Also from AP's Nasser Nasser, we see the same worker, showing obvious distress, carrying the same girl. But now he is wearing his fluorescent jacket and helmet and has acquired latex gloves. He has also got his radio back. The photograph is timed at 10.44 pm and the caption reads:

A civil defense worker carries the body of Lebanese child recovered from the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by an Israeli airstrike at the village of Qana near the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday, July 30, 2006. Israeli missiles struck this southern Lebanese village early Sunday, flattening houses on top of sleeping residents. The Lebanese Red Cross said the airstrike, in which at least 34 children were killed, pushed the overall Lebanese death toll to more than 500.
Here we are now, same "worker" and same girl, but this time it is done for the benefit of EPA, the photographer, Mohamed Messara, the worker rushing towards a uniformed Red Cross worker. This caption (without a time) reads:

A rescue worker carries the body of a Lebanese girl after an Israeli air strike on the village of Qana, east of the southern port city of Tyre, on Sunday 30 July 2006. At least 51 people were killed, many of them children, and several others wounded in the raid Sunday, witnesses and rescue workers said.
But now, for the benefit of AFP, the photgraph taken by Nicolas Asfouri, we have the same unfortunate child being handled by another worker, the original worker showing in the background, having passed the casualty on. The timing of the photograph is 7.16 pm and the caption reads:

A rescue worker puts the body of a dead girl on a gurney after Israeli air strikes on the southern Lebanese village of Qana. Israel agreed to temporarily halt air strikes in south Lebanon a day after 52 people were killed, many of them sleeping children, when Israeli warplanes bombarded the Lebanese village of Qana, triggering global outrage and warnings of retribution for alleged "war crimes".
Remember, however, earlier in the sequence, the girl is being carried to the ambulance, by the other worker, sans jacket, helmet and gloves.

Fiunally, in this sequence, we get another shot from AP's Nasser Nasser, again without a timing but with this caption:

A civil defence worker carries a body of a young Lebanese child recovered from the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli war plane missiles at the village of Qana near the southern Lebanon city of Tyre, Sunday, July 30, 2006.
Whatever else, the event in Qana was a human tragedy. But the photographs do not show it honestly. Rather, they have been staged for effect, exploiting the victims in an unwholesome manner. In so doing, they are no longer news photographs - they are propaganda. And, whoever said the camera cannot lie forgot that photographers can and do. Those lies have spread throughout the world by now and will be in this morning's newspapers, accepted as real by the millions who view them.

The profession of photo-journalism thereby is sadly diminished by them, and the trust in those who took them and in those who carried them is misplaced. Truly, we are dealing with loathesome creatures.

COMMENT THREAD


52 posted on 07/31/2006 3:03:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: IsraelBeach

Great article


53 posted on 07/31/2006 6:28:23 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: IsraelBeach

But Hizballah is a benevolent aid organization. It's a legitimate political party. At least that's what I heard.


54 posted on 07/31/2006 7:02:14 PM PDT by Sender (“Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.”)
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To: Starrgaizr
Don't forget the 500,000 toy plastic keys to the gates of Heaven.
After Iraq invaded in September 1980, The Ayatollah Khomeini imported 500,000 small plastic keys from Taiwan. It was clear that Iran's forces were no match for Saddam's professional, well-armed military. To compensate Khomeini sent Iranian children as young as twelve years old to the front lines. There, they marched and rolled in formation across minefields toward the enemy, clearing a path with their bodies. Before every mission a Taiwanese key would be hung around each child's neck -- a toy key to open the gates to paradise.

These children were the Basiji, a mass movement created by Khomeini in 1979 and militarized after the war started. The Basij Mostazafan -- "mobilization of the oppressed" -- was a volunteer militia, most of whose members were not yet 18. They went enthusiastically, and by the thousands, to their own destruction.

The sacrifice of the Basiji was ghastly. And yet, today, it is not a national shame, but a source of growing pride. Since the end of hostilities against Iraq in 1988, the Basiji have grown in numbers and influence. Their elite "special units" have been used as shock troops against anti-government forces. In both 1999 and 2003, the Basiji suppressed student unrest. And, last year, they formed the potent core of the political base that propelled Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- who reportedly served as a Basij instructor during the Iran-Iraq War -- to the presidency.

Ahmadinejad revels in his alliance with the Basiji. He regularly appears in public wearing a black-and-white Basij scarf, and, in his speeches, he routinely praises "Basij culture" and "Basij power," with which he says "Iran today makes its presence felt on the international and diplomatic stage." Ahmadinejad's ascendance on the shoulders of the Basiji means that the Iranian Revolution, launched almost three decades ago, has entered a new and disturbing phase. A younger generation of Iranians, whose worldviews were forged in the atrocities of the Iran-Iraq War, have come to power, wielding a more fervently ideological approach to politics than their predecessors. The children of the Revolution are now its leaders.

Excerpted and edited from source: A CHILD OF THE REVOLUTION TAKES OVER. Ahmadinejad's Demons by Matthias Küntzel 04.14.06, New Republic Online

55 posted on 07/31/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by bvw
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