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To: wildcatf4f3
FREEDOM is an aberation in human history and we may be underestimating how RARE it is

I couldn't disagree with you more. The desire for freedom is built into us.

Here is an experiment you may be able to run. Take a two year old who total life experience has been one where he/she is taken care of, watched, controlled, never given the freedom to do what they really want. That is, a typical two year old. Take that child to some environment that is safe and controlled enough that you can just let them run wild, do what they want, go where they want to go. Just follow them around and see what they do when they taste FREEDOM. You cannot watch something like this without knowing with absolute certainty that freedom is an inherent desire of the human species.

131 posted on 07/29/2006 6:31:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

I think you missed the point.

The post was not, imho, that freedom was not an inherent yearning in each individual . . .

The point was that world governments and cultures through the eons virtually all implemented heavy handed control for eons.

I think his point is essentially correct.

Certainly God created us with an interesting paradox--a God-shaped void within yearning to worship Him which will worship virtually anything as an inferior substitute rather than submit to even God Almighty . . .

and a desire to be free to express our God designed individuality without restraints.


134 posted on 07/29/2006 6:39:26 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: InterceptPoint; wildcatf4f3
Take that child to some environment that is safe and controlled enough that you can just let them run wild

This supports wildcats assertion that security is tantamount. And even Americans are now conditioned to require safety and security. If one is to conduct the freedom experiment with the two year old put into the wilderness with all of its danger and potential; then one could draw more solid conclusions. IMHO

309 posted on 07/29/2006 10:49:54 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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